"A crime or any non-crime incident, which *is perceived by the victim or any other person*, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person’s gender or perceived gender"
It's crazy, isn't it? Since when do the police concern themselves with circumstances under which no law has been broken? And since when is their involvement based on wholly subjective perceptions? Since gender, apparently.
The whole thing is batshit, but the "or any other person" bit really takes the biscuit. Somebody can do something which isn't a crime, the other person involved in the interaction can be completely unfazed by it, and some ABSOLUTE RANDOMER in the general vicinity can decide that they didn't like it and report it to the Police, who are then bound to take it seriously. Sometimes it feels like we're living in an extended Monty Python sketch that refuses to end.
a cross dresser/AGP goes to local shop and gets 'noticed' by the public and shoppers and he doesnt like it - so makes a complaint that his feelinz have been hurtz..so Police look at cctv and round up everyone who 'looked at him' on the day..RESULT!
Yup. And women will face potential criminal charges or have an "incident" recorded against them for objecting to men in their spaces if that man claims he's a woman. Very fucking dangerous is this. How much longer before identifying as a child gets added to the protected list? Open invitation for paedos and creeps.
Interested to find out out how The Vatican would approach a Lurch lookalikey wanting to become a nun,(also interested if this "wanting to be a nun" extends to being as dedicated to the faith and community as nuns usually are or if its just a desire to wear the habit). It could go either way; "go away you deviant sinner" or "welcome to the Misogyny Club, go find a nunnery of your choice"
If my shonky translation of the article is correct, the Catholic church doesn't buy into gender identity ideology & won't accept a man can become a woman because, feelings. So he's never going to get his size 12 foot in the door of a convent!
The more exclusively-female something is, the more the fetishists want access to it. That's why so many of them are disturbingly obsessed with menstruation, pregnancy and lactation. Convents are explicitly single-sex institutions, and have been for over a millennium - they are therefore irresistible to the extremely-entitled misogynist fetishists. There are also some who fetishize hijab, incidentally.
You're so right, Comrade Hedgehog. It's all about fetishizing womanhood and / or validation. Anything women have, do, experience etc, they want & will steal. These AGP ghouls are a danger to women and make life so much harder for genuine transwomen.
So can women use this as a way to record hate crimes committed against them if they feel it was committed because the assailant believed they were a woman? Don't see why not.
Being refused entry to a lesbian club / meeting, being asked to leave a female changing room, being told to put your penis away... If the 'victim' perceives offence, in come the rozzers. The world has gone utterly mad.
Its totally unbelievable JL. I've been trying to tell one or 2cselect friends about this but they just look really uncomfortable and obviously think I've become some weird conspiracy theorist aligned to Qanon.
Oh I understand completely. When you try to explain it - rapists in women's prisons, huge strapping middle aged former marines playing college girls' basketball, it does sound crazy to the uninitiated!
The subjectivity of this;
"A crime or any non-crime incident, which *is perceived by the victim or any other person*, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person’s gender or perceived gender"
is a very bad thing. We have it in NZ as well.
It's crazy, isn't it? Since when do the police concern themselves with circumstances under which no law has been broken? And since when is their involvement based on wholly subjective perceptions? Since gender, apparently.
The whole thing is batshit, but the "or any other person" bit really takes the biscuit. Somebody can do something which isn't a crime, the other person involved in the interaction can be completely unfazed by it, and some ABSOLUTE RANDOMER in the general vicinity can decide that they didn't like it and report it to the Police, who are then bound to take it seriously. Sometimes it feels like we're living in an extended Monty Python sketch that refuses to end.
NOBODY EXPECTS THE TRANISH INQUISITION!
a cross dresser/AGP goes to local shop and gets 'noticed' by the public and shoppers and he doesnt like it - so makes a complaint that his feelinz have been hurtz..so Police look at cctv and round up everyone who 'looked at him' on the day..RESULT!
"Did you call this lady 'he', madam?"
"Yes... But... he has a beard!"
"IT IS MA'AM!"
yep! the bearded 'ladee' is no longer a circus sideshow
Yup. And women will face potential criminal charges or have an "incident" recorded against them for objecting to men in their spaces if that man claims he's a woman. Very fucking dangerous is this. How much longer before identifying as a child gets added to the protected list? Open invitation for paedos and creeps.
Interested to find out out how The Vatican would approach a Lurch lookalikey wanting to become a nun,(also interested if this "wanting to be a nun" extends to being as dedicated to the faith and community as nuns usually are or if its just a desire to wear the habit). It could go either way; "go away you deviant sinner" or "welcome to the Misogyny Club, go find a nunnery of your choice"
If my shonky translation of the article is correct, the Catholic church doesn't buy into gender identity ideology & won't accept a man can become a woman because, feelings. So he's never going to get his size 12 foot in the door of a convent!
Well that's a sort of comfort.
The more exclusively-female something is, the more the fetishists want access to it. That's why so many of them are disturbingly obsessed with menstruation, pregnancy and lactation. Convents are explicitly single-sex institutions, and have been for over a millennium - they are therefore irresistible to the extremely-entitled misogynist fetishists. There are also some who fetishize hijab, incidentally.
You're so right, Comrade Hedgehog. It's all about fetishizing womanhood and / or validation. Anything women have, do, experience etc, they want & will steal. These AGP ghouls are a danger to women and make life so much harder for genuine transwomen.
Incels + church = TRA
So can women use this as a way to record hate crimes committed against them if they feel it was committed because the assailant believed they were a woman? Don't see why not.
It would be interesting to test this theory. My guess is that it only works one way!
Yeah, funny that. It's dangerous though to create laws that only apply to small groups.
Makes you wonder what sort of things will constitute a hate incident.
Laughing at a bloke in a dress?
A lesbian declaring she won't date TW?
Not offering a TW a tampon in the toilets? 😂🤡
"She looked at me funny"
Being refused entry to a lesbian club / meeting, being asked to leave a female changing room, being told to put your penis away... If the 'victim' perceives offence, in come the rozzers. The world has gone utterly mad.
Its totally unbelievable JL. I've been trying to tell one or 2cselect friends about this but they just look really uncomfortable and obviously think I've become some weird conspiracy theorist aligned to Qanon.
Oh I understand completely. When you try to explain it - rapists in women's prisons, huge strapping middle aged former marines playing college girls' basketball, it does sound crazy to the uninitiated!
I'm probably going to regret asking but "cd"?
I think it means 'cross dresser'.
Creepy dick-owner.
🤣
Or, 'Certified Dickhead' ?
Down with all this.
The irony of the Pope being the one to hold the line against the men in dresses...
The irony wasn't lost on me! That said, I'm glad the sisters have been saved from having this creepy wimple fetishist in their convent!
The nuns would put manners on that fella
I would pay to see that.