Monday 11th September - Fencing Off Women’s Sport DAILY MAIL: Trans-identified male competitors are cleaning up in women’s fencing competitions while the sport’s governing body shrugs its shoulders about unfairness. US fencer, Eden Philpot, has been fencing competitively for over a decade.
The different treatment of Roisin Murphy and Alice Cooper shows that the BBC is not just Woke but even where making un-Woke exceptions will nevertheless display its true misogynist colours.
I have the view that misogyny is part and parcel of the 'trans thing' along with homophobia. That people who should know better don't see this is appalling.
A year ago I was a “live and let live” kinda gal. Now I understand how dangerously naive this was. Being so tolerant has hastened my disappearance. In the trans controlled alternative universe I must fade away into obscurity with not even a whimper, never mind a bang. Well they can all fuck off. I am now a raging transphobe. A made up and nonsensical term but none the less I am happy, no - delighted, to wear my new descriptor with actual pride. I refuse to be cowed or frightened by these bullies. I’m having a t shirt made. I’m creating a flag. I want the police to paint their cars in its image and arrest people who do no accept my views. My reality is just as valid as the trans kidology and I’M JJST NOT HAVING THIS SHIT ANYMORE.
i’m the same. I see a guy pretending to be a woman, 20 years ago i’d be, well its his choice, and it still is but now i’m like…. I bet that dickhead actually thinks he’s a woman.- because he’s universally changed the meaning of the word ‘woman’ to fit his agenda, and his entitlement expects and demands everyone adopt his ‘truth’. So now i see a man dressed as a woman and i just think, self obsessed nobhead.
Men who cross dress but make no demands infringing on women and girl’s rights i do support of course. sadly hard to tell now a days
No they don’t think they’re a woman. The motivation is to make you and everyone else acknowledge him as a woman. The fetish is in forcing his will on other people. The rage they exhibit is because it is so bleeding obvious that hormones, hair transplants, cosmetic surgery, makeup and clothes do not a woman make. Boys and girls, men and women now and forever get a frisson from their differences, same sex attracted no doubt get the same. A trans identified man who has been foolish enough to get surgery has little to offer either sex.
I agree, I met transexuals in the background with gay friends in clubs. They were no problem, never met them in the ladies, never really thought about them much, just that they could live as they want. Now I am very defensive, when I see them I wonder what they are thinking, do they want validation from me, will they come into the toilet with me, why are they dressed so sexually. I dread a man I work with suddenly appearing as a woman and how I will handle it. I do not believe the dress as you please mantra anymore, as they normally push that envelope so far.
So fvcking depressing. For what exactly must a gynaecologist treat a man? For what condition? Wasting professional time and stealing appointments from women. Not content with stealing sports prizes, they now want to steal our medical appointments as well. The revolution and the backlash can't come soon enough. Hatred is not a strong enough word for what I feel, for what most of us feel.
This is the start, where will they place the man with the infected frankenfanny in hospital, where will the man with the cancerous moobs induced with wrong sex hormones insist on being cared for.
This has huge implications for women's health and our tiny funding within the NHS.
It's a sad state of affairs when gynaecologists have to play along with these fetishits (I'm leaving this typo in, as I rather like it).
Assuming that he was attending a cervical smear appointment, how is a sample taken when all concerned are fully aware that there is no cervix, and would this non-sample be sent to a testing laboratory?
The whole point of all this is to force us to accept fetishes and paraphilias as sexual orientations like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality and lesbianism. No matter how they squeal and protest, they never will be accepted as such in public. They know that the vast majority of people are totally opposed to Stalinist diktats. The fundamental problem with accepting fetishes and paraphilias as orientations is that they will then be played out in public even more than they are now, because that is how they get their kicks, and utter disgust will be the outcome. Almost all fetishes and paraphilias use females or children as props.
Precisely. All a monumental waste of time and piss take. People pretending the emperor is wearing robes of golden silk should be utterly ashamed of themselves and they should be pilloried. Love the typo. Will shamelessly use it from now on!
It's been odd watching all this unfold and how. They've co-opted so many people's natural inclination to be kind, empathetic and polite. Not make waves and to behave. That women are trained from birth to fall into the caring, kind, gentle, accepting role means this is where we are now as institutions have funnily enough decided to put these men's needs firmly above mostly children and women again and strangely then deny it and point the finger elsewhere not really accepting what they have been and still are doing. Want to be paid less? Sure, don't be greedy, what makes you better than anyone else? Why should you. Put up with being groped and harassed? It's your job and no one else mentioned it, stop fussing. It's a very short step to that man claiming to be a woman is obviously a woman, so shush you women nagging us that he isn't how dare you, get back in your place - that place we create and tell you you can have.
It's the ones who call it lady dique as if making it sound a bit French makes it above criticism in their little fantasy world that made me stop in my tracks wanting to ask is this madness an actual real thing that they think we're going to fall for?? And then yes, whole parliaments and esteemed institutions seemed to.
Having taken a few calming deep breaths, the piece that horrifies me the most amongst this litany of horrors, is the piece about the University of Leicester’s trans guidance. What the fuck!! Can these people not see even a tiny part of the damage that this ideology is doing? Museums must promote gender ideology! The safety of children is at stake here. Where is the outrage and groundswell of anger? I don’t understand.
it's so shocking. So now I can't take my kids to museums! (we'll.. in that regard i'm lucky, they're teens now and not so keen!.. unlucky in other ways of course as .. PHSE (been on the phone to the school already to let them know I'm watching)). Shocking bullying of museum staff, shocking re-writing of history. Unacceptable.
Just read Wiki or something on 'trans'. Apparently, drawings of people with both male and female sex organs on Neolithic stones proves that there were 'trans' thousands of years ago. Nope. There may well have been people with both male and female sex organs, but they are not, and never were 'trans' - or were they carrying out 'trans' ops all those years ago? These people are quite mad.
I was in a Leicester Museum recently and there was palpable unhappiness in staff. I found out there have been some odd things happening behind the scenes (it usually does come out eventually). This does explain it - there are cuts and job losses handled very badly. That's where this new vision of what some think 'equality' is seems to gain a foothold and a few zealots then disrupt to the point of destroying an organisation from within.
It keeps surprising me how many are unaware that this is going on and still marching through our lives.
Same here. I keep expecting a sudden awakening and a mass revolt. Sadly, I think there are a lot of people who are vaguely aware but who prefer to keep their heads down. I can understand some of them, but I’m realising that alongside the virtue signallers, there are simply too many cowards.
It's age old misogyny, but it's also a sinister profit-driven manipulation of society. Noting that men also get cancelled if they are particularly pointed about reality (like Alex Burne). Silencing women is essential for this movement because no woman could accept this dehumanisation, and no mother can accept this future for her children (obviously some do, because they can't think critically.. argh). To force this profitable change on society you MUST silence women, because if women rise up, in enough numbers. it's over.
For the men who don't care; I can see why selfishly men could see this as an advantage for their sex.. the worst of them are removed form their spaces and categories, so men 'fly' with this regime. The best of men are standing up for and with women.
Sadly, though, many women ARE accepting of and encouraging this dehumanisation. The Education Minister in France being one. I'm not sure whom I hate more, the TRAs or the people, especially the women, who enable and celebrate and defend this dehumanising cult of female penis worship. It's beyond my comprehension why any woman would actively collude in the dehumanisation and erasure of her sex class.
I completely agree, it frustrates me so much, it's been a real eye opener to me about how misogynistic women can be! Elite women virtue signalling.. infuriates me.
I don't know if you managed to catch the secret union meeting in Canada to try and counter protest the parents in the million march. It was jaw dropping to see how many women thought bullying and intimidating parents was fine. A woman even presented a slide show on how to pull the rug out from under them. It included noise, bring loudspeakers, music, chant sheet, noise makers to drown them out. Female blue haired Uni lecturer gave a talk on her subject, Fascism, and how these parents and this anti gender movement was showing all the signs of it. The irony.
I saw a mention of that union meeting, I must watch it. The infiltration to groups and institutions with power is so significant. Shocking, all bullies, unable to listen and discuss respectfully.
So many men don't see transwomen taking positions from natal women as an issue. I came across it last week when a committee I used to be a member of went from having a gender balance of 3 women and 4 men to being 3 men, 1 woman and a transwoman. I was then told that the balance was there with 3 men and 2 women. As the only GC female present, I didn't feel safe to challenge this 4 men, 1 woman committee. The transwoman has barged to the front of the line for our seat on the women's committee too. So that committee will have 2 women and 4 transwomen on it. Representing women, don't think so...
this is awful, and it's happening all over the place. Trans-identified are very motivated to get into positions of power and they also have a lot of time on their hands to do it. Very driven I think. In particular women who are busy carers.. are going to be severely under represented. NO trans identified man can (or is motivated to) represent women's issues.
(i didn't avoid using the word 'mother'.. I just wanted to also factor in how many women are giving their time to look after older people).
It's because they are men and retain all the male characteristics and drives that want control, power, domination, albeit, because they are generally Beta males, rather than Alpha, and cannot fight their own sex, they do it by trampling females into the ground. Same as they retain male patterns of criminal behaviour. Nothing actually changes.
I think UnaS is right, though. Women will eventually have had enough and take to the streets as the Suffragettes did, butt with even greater rage. They will be fighting to retain rights that they know they have as opposed to fighting for rights that men had and women never had. I do believe it will get bloody, but women will never back down.
Yes the suffragetes were told that women couldn't get vote, probably told we weren't intelligent enough or views weren't worth it as we were at home. However they never had their words taken away, they were never told they were not women, they were a selection of body parts that can be surgically replaced. Being mothers and breastfeeding their babies were never challenged. They did not have the vote but they were still Adult Human Females.
Indeed, Cathy. How any sane person can expect females to simply put up with this utter nonsense is beyond my comprehension. In Scotland, this shit is so tied up with the SNP and Greens - who are in government - that perfectly intelligent people are telling us to shut up for the sake of independence and let it all happen. In other words, females have to lose all their rights, and even their very existence, so that other Scots can be independent.
You would think that people who believe in independence and feel that their rights are not being respected in the UK would understand how females feel. Do they hell! We are being far too conciliatory to these paraphiliacs and fetishists, and real action needs to be taken.
Kelly-Jay Keen-Minshull's idea of a Women's party, just for biological women, is a great one, and she is one helluva fighter for women and girls, but I hope that she will expand its limits to include all female issues - pensions (or lack of), the pay gap, health issues, etc., and not limit it to this bilge water. If we are not careful, we are going to lose out big time right across the board and find ourselves in a pre Victorian parallel universe.
I do not, and never have, subscribed to the 'validation' theory. This is a men's rights movement that wants to push back on everything that women have achieved over the past century and more. Some of them hate us so much for being female that it is staggering because there is no basis for their hate. Most of these men are porn sick paraphiliacs and fetishists. How the hell is that our fault, although everything appears to be our fault? What they actually want - and saying, no, is the reason they become so enraged - is that every disgusting perversion under the sun should be a lifestyle choice and a sexual orientation.
The politicians who push this garbage must be held up to the light in their own lives. They appear to show no empathy for females our children. None. Frankly, the women who support this invasion of women's and children's rights are worse because they, themselves, will be affected directly, but they seem too stupid to understand what they are giving away to these men in frocks and their enablers. We also need to appeal to decent men who can follow the examples of Graham and Barry Wall, Clive Simpson and Dennis Kavanagh, and many, many more, who do see clearly what is going on, and who are doing a great deal to try and prevent it, and who are also targeted by this monstrous lobby of enablers. We, quite literally now, are fighting for our right to exist - as 50% of the human race.
Yes it's interesting to see how this goes, will people vote as I used to for Greens, wanted a few on council to do the right thing for environment, now I know they're just a sex party full of men in dresses, I'm sure you've seen the one laying on disabled toilet floor. They are actually an environmental hazard to women and children.
Cathy: the men who mutilate themselves and the women who do so, insult women who have had gynaecological surgery and breast surgery respectively, and who are left with lifelong medical issues. The only thing that stops me from actually hating these people for their woman-facing and man-facing is the realization that they are going to suffer the medical by-products of their gross narcissism and social contagion. I do feel sorry for those with dysphoria (actually dysmorphia) and they do need all the help they can get, but radical surgery and hormones are not it, and, certainly, puberty blockers for wee bairns, is inhuman.
I asked the publisher about sales ( I had to contact them about another matter ) while they couldn’t give me exact figures they did say it was proving rather popular !! 😂
The German study reminds me of how I discovered what was going on and became... a TERF.
Some years ago I read a newspaper report about the conviction of a woman on serious child sex abuse charges. It was unusual enough to stick in my mind but I didn't think beyond the reported 'facts'.
Then, a year or so later, over the space of a couple of months, I read two more reports of women accused of child sex offences. I was horrified - what was happening to our society that suddenly women were committing what are typically male crimes? Or was it that these women had been going under the radar for years?
I was genuinely concerned and started looking online to see if anyone had identified a trend or was researching this. No-one reading this will be surprised at what I discovered, including the fact that further investigation of the two recent cases revealed that both perpetrators were indeed men.
My investigations led me to JL's Princess Mom and Aimee Challoner reports and a TERF was born!
It is going to effect all the stats on anything that should be recorded as female only. Not just crimes, but jobs, health outcomes, childcare issues. Gov pull on these figures to plan future spending. As further up this thread, top jobs have increasing no. of women, great, but it's men in dresses. Long term sickeness with women's health issues, menopause , oh its a man in a dress.
thanks lie-cester university, department of advanced pharmaceutical marketing.
if you base a child’s development on a foundation of watered down excrement, expect subsidence.
These poor children that are denied a fundamental basic truth of our species. Shame on all of them.
Our children. Everyday i am continuously shocked at the lack of commitment to our children’s mental and physical health.
People should be lining the air waves to tell children that they are as God or natural selection made them and anything society tells them is some agenda bullshit.
I saw three girls the other day, beautiful 12/13 year old children walking down the street, all
of them 2/3 stone lighter than they should have been. All bought some shit someone /some abuser had sold them. Too fat. Too fat. Be thin, be thinner. Shame on the machine and its fucking agenda lying to those children.
How can children live their best lives when the adult world is always shaping them and grooming them for current and future profits.
Like the gambling fuckers marketing to children and the vapes and the national lottery with its big fun displays which definitely are designed to appeal to children. I know because mine flock to them. A table of joy with pens and things to circle and colour in. A special little place for the people in the club.
Fuck you national lottery. Fuck you and you flashing screens. Fuck you gambling. Fuck you social media.
it fucking stinks Harry. And i’m not a communist. But i expect/hope for legislation to protect people from becoming exploited by the ruling elite. If we want to be free society and business need boundaries. Sorry for ranting and sounding all preachy. Brings out the worst in me this topic.
Cheers CB. I'm sure we all feel the same here. This TRA crap has been an unholy alliance between- anti-democratic billionaires, predatory criminal paedophiles, misogynists, homophobes, misfit grifters who could get no other job except the newly-invented bogus 'equity champion', failed male athletes who can win and profit from taking over women's sports, failed academics who try and invent their own fake subjects to teach. ruthless big pharma, and cruel unscrupulous plastic surgeons. It feels like it avoids a left wing/right wing binary (-hah! see what I did there?) because this madness does not relate to any political philosophy. But TRAs were clever, and hijacked the left wing support for liberation struggles, and pretended that trans rights should be the number one priority human rights issue... At least it is therapeutic to say these things, because my mind is still boggling at this outrageous and evil situation...
indeed Harry. I often rant here for therapeutic reasons. Not sure how helpful it is tbh but at least i take comfort in knowing that others share these worries. Best wishes.
oh my goodness what an edition. I was getting really upset as usual and angry and then found myself pissing myself at the bit about the gynaecologist expected to treat a man’s fictional vagina. Its just amazing. Fucking hell though. This edition helps one see just how deep this poison has penetrated all parts of the system. And yet our political leaders are still doing f all.
the politicians are usually like 3/4 years behind reality, well thats probably bullshit, more like decades. But given whats at stake. There are truly failing us
Do they trot along and tell the gynae what to do? I mean, they would be clueless about what happens in real appointments so do they expect a 'procedure' and what do they expect? Does the clinician get into scrubs and dance around the room incanting something? Wave a speculum at them or their general direction? Do they lie down? Sprinkle holy water? I guess they can examine their ego and book another appointment to see how much it swelled in another 18 months.
Of course. Maybe they think you draw out your soul womanliness when the gynae paints your toenails as your feet are up in stirrups and that's the truly professional way to get a pedicure (which means 'intimate exam'). I am seriously fulminating about these selfish bar stewards and their endless, endless, relentless exaggerated demands to waste precious very limited resources on services they don't need, which wastes and therefore withholds that provision from others - those, and only those who need it, often for life-saving reasons. ****ing **** :-( and the nitwit institutions pushing this.
All this did you or did you ever have a uterus nonsense where we are self-lobotomising on a national scale having to pander to this crap.
Fume away TSBBL. I really think this ideology is on its way out. The parents at school who just don’t think about it, well as soon as it effects their kids they are like… NO, no way. No timmy can dress as a girl and say he is a girl, but he’s not going anywhere near the actual girls. Not on our watch. Time’s running out for them. Team reality is being woken up every day.
I met a Dr at SFW event, her excited "female" consultant in UK allowed a man into her gynae clinic as his frankenfanny was bleeding in A&E. He jumped an entire waiting room of women. Had a speculum exam and was prescribed antibiotics. The Dr asked what the consultant thought she would see with a speculum, but the consultant was floating on a cloud of virtue signalling.
THere are many people out there who really believe all these TRAs have had their penises turned inside out, just like that and women have had their vaginas turned inside out too.
Often just telling them 99% still have their tackle is a game changer, if you can get in, even prisoners in womens prison.
The vast majority of TIMs look ridiculous but Mr Antonio takes the biscuit.
I am pleased to see more detransitioners’ legal cases in the States- together with the UK cases I feel these will be essential in shutting the door on ‘affirmative care’ for children. Will cross post on this tomorrow.
On way back from Dublin after attending LWS and still keeping hold of the buzz!
I honestly do not understand how you do it, Graham. I stick up for you every chance I get. In Scotland, we are supposedly to have a new misogyny law, and guess what? Dame Helena Kennedy - yet another male penis worshipper - has insisted in the review that TiMs should be included. It just gets worse and worse for us up here. So, fake women will have 'transphobia' and misogyny on their side. One woman in "Women Won't Wheesht' suggested that the first person to be charged under the new act will almost certainly be a gender critical female. You couldn't make this up. Except they do. Helena Kennedy, advocate and barrister, born in Scotland, but based in England for many years, was chosen from a host of female advocates in Scotland to adjudicate on this review/study, because she is as 'woke' as they come and at one remove from Scotland.
My ex-husband, a "post op" male who ideated a female persona (secretly at first) from the time I was about 6 months pregnant with our second son (1991) is a database management executive His firm serves world class museums around the world, including The Tate, has a special "pronouns page" and conducts museum staff in online and remote courses on introducing the concept that we don't know the actual sex of say, Da Vinci or Rembrandt, so it's perfectly fine to say "they/them" and use your imagination how they'd look if they did self portraits as "female." Oh yes, middle aged AGPs are promoting this, for museum staff to teach to visiting school groups. BTW, he claimed he was a "data entry" worker, rather than honestly say he's COO and in an equity contract, to get out of paying child support for the 2 sons he fathered.
Thank you Ute. The links with tech and all the behind the scenes is clear isn't it - these individuals have the power to influence and shape how everything is done and it explains how comprehensively this ideology has spread and was embedded almost invisibly in not only our health, criminal justice and education sectors but all our cultural institutions too. In our perceptions of ourselves and looking out to the world and time - to recast it again in their own image. The layers and layers of lies are quite something to behold.
Thank you. The truly odious vein of corruption I've detected is the fact that men like my ex-husband have been lying to the very therapists they pay, for the purpose of obtaining letters to the surgeons. They never admit the abuse they've subjected their wives to, or the fact they use their children as props. The psychologists/therapists/psychiatrists willfully ignore their patients' obvious narcissism. Blanchard maintained the concept that if these dudes are holding a job, they are upstanding members of society and "what happens behind closed doors" is between two consenting adults. While Zucker appears to have treated children with cross-sex ideation, Blanchard formulated his "Protocols" for men who, in his words, find "it too disturbing to acknowledge it is a sexual fetish." But clearly, he knew his patients were coercing their wives into the fetish. There are many, many false narratives and mistaken assumptions in psychology and sociology---the existence of "true trans" is one of them.
Reading and looking at how these things have grown over decades it really is one or two experts in these fields - I think most here know the names now but I am still surprised how much weight is still attached and wonder how they've not been debunked. I studied some of them in college psychology and it really was one man thought this, then another man thought that, then another built on or argued against that which has by then become a 'school' of thought. Then it's fifty odd years later and a billion pound industrial complex. Then spurious 'research' to back up some theory, which then filters down to actual practice and application in healthcare and our lives - which I find terrifying as it's built on sand.
Too many 'experts' have the gall to think 'it's a new field, it's my field, name it after me!' and it's that symbiosis of odious personalities that feed off each other - patients/professionals/patients. Kerching.
Having a job and all the 'normal' average trappings of expected societal norms is a cover for a lot isn't it and always has been. Like the mass murderers and afterwards their neighbours are interviewed that 'he was a nice bloke who said hello and kept himself to himself'. It seems such a naive way to live. Honestly, call something 'a protocol' and you enshrine that as something formal and accepted - all this adding tweaks to the formularies and diagnostic manuals. They brought this into life by formalising it as a thing. Formalise it in insurance and accounting mechanisms to professionalise 'being trans'. It's not a thing! No matter what drop down code you dream up to describe your multiple fetishes.
Exactly! In the case of the sex trait modification cult, it filtered its way through Judith Butler's nonsense writing, not read it myself, but everyone who did says it's illogical, nonsensical and simply calculated to sell. I grew up in "latte town" Madison, Wisconsin, and saw my friends' professor parents (my father was in business, organizing the 401k plans for the commie academics) pose the most far out ideas, from their wonderful, historic houses in University Heights, on how we must dismantle "the system." Then they sent their kids to Oberlin, where a women's lacrosse coach is being cancelled for saying male bodies have an unfair advantage in women's sport. Come to think of it, lots of those friends didn't launch until well into their 30s, dontchaknow? (<Wisconsin dialect)
The real story of narcissism, envy, porn addiction, parapilia is much less appealing than a boy who liked to dance in dress. Although even that could be early parphilia as in Eddie Izzard and his mums clothes.
another thing about these mental universities pushing this harmful poison onto children is i won’t let my kids get into massive debt to go to these micky mouse institutions. Aren’t they worried that if their plan for complete global brain control fails they’ll end up looking like failed dictators.
The different treatment of Roisin Murphy and Alice Cooper shows that the BBC is not just Woke but even where making un-Woke exceptions will nevertheless display its true misogynist colours.
I have the view that misogyny is part and parcel of the 'trans thing' along with homophobia. That people who should know better don't see this is appalling.
its weird how the bbc will stand by some and not others.
i except transparency from the national broadcaster that we have to pay for. And the other bodies like police etc
I don’t pay the telly tax , not watched it’s shit for years
I was wondering whether it was a difference in attitude between radio2 and radio6.
i’m still loving the fact that our political leaders would do well to listen to a guy who allegedly bit the head off a chicken.
A year ago I was a “live and let live” kinda gal. Now I understand how dangerously naive this was. Being so tolerant has hastened my disappearance. In the trans controlled alternative universe I must fade away into obscurity with not even a whimper, never mind a bang. Well they can all fuck off. I am now a raging transphobe. A made up and nonsensical term but none the less I am happy, no - delighted, to wear my new descriptor with actual pride. I refuse to be cowed or frightened by these bullies. I’m having a t shirt made. I’m creating a flag. I want the police to paint their cars in its image and arrest people who do no accept my views. My reality is just as valid as the trans kidology and I’M JJST NOT HAVING THIS SHIT ANYMORE.
i’m the same. I see a guy pretending to be a woman, 20 years ago i’d be, well its his choice, and it still is but now i’m like…. I bet that dickhead actually thinks he’s a woman.- because he’s universally changed the meaning of the word ‘woman’ to fit his agenda, and his entitlement expects and demands everyone adopt his ‘truth’. So now i see a man dressed as a woman and i just think, self obsessed nobhead.
Men who cross dress but make no demands infringing on women and girl’s rights i do support of course. sadly hard to tell now a days
No they don’t think they’re a woman. The motivation is to make you and everyone else acknowledge him as a woman. The fetish is in forcing his will on other people. The rage they exhibit is because it is so bleeding obvious that hormones, hair transplants, cosmetic surgery, makeup and clothes do not a woman make. Boys and girls, men and women now and forever get a frisson from their differences, same sex attracted no doubt get the same. A trans identified man who has been foolish enough to get surgery has little to offer either sex.
I agree, I met transexuals in the background with gay friends in clubs. They were no problem, never met them in the ladies, never really thought about them much, just that they could live as they want. Now I am very defensive, when I see them I wonder what they are thinking, do they want validation from me, will they come into the toilet with me, why are they dressed so sexually. I dread a man I work with suddenly appearing as a woman and how I will handle it. I do not believe the dress as you please mantra anymore, as they normally push that envelope so far.
indeed the trans-crowd can all Fuck off. It might do you good to watch Saturday's Let Women Speak from Dublin.
https://www.youtube.com/live/wV8uTh1Pq7s?si=LiYtX9HTRH8KvMyE
THANKS!
Yes, many of us have been on the same path. We've just sleepwalked into this awful situation.
So fvcking depressing. For what exactly must a gynaecologist treat a man? For what condition? Wasting professional time and stealing appointments from women. Not content with stealing sports prizes, they now want to steal our medical appointments as well. The revolution and the backlash can't come soon enough. Hatred is not a strong enough word for what I feel, for what most of us feel.
Absolutely, I’m just speechless with fury at the moment. 🤬
This is the start, where will they place the man with the infected frankenfanny in hospital, where will the man with the cancerous moobs induced with wrong sex hormones insist on being cared for.
This has huge implications for women's health and our tiny funding within the NHS.
My fury knows no ends about this either.
It's a sad state of affairs when gynaecologists have to play along with these fetishits (I'm leaving this typo in, as I rather like it).
Assuming that he was attending a cervical smear appointment, how is a sample taken when all concerned are fully aware that there is no cervix, and would this non-sample be sent to a testing laboratory?
What a complete mockery of a life-saving service!
Loving they typo! 😂
The whole point of all this is to force us to accept fetishes and paraphilias as sexual orientations like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality and lesbianism. No matter how they squeal and protest, they never will be accepted as such in public. They know that the vast majority of people are totally opposed to Stalinist diktats. The fundamental problem with accepting fetishes and paraphilias as orientations is that they will then be played out in public even more than they are now, because that is how they get their kicks, and utter disgust will be the outcome. Almost all fetishes and paraphilias use females or children as props.
Precisely. All a monumental waste of time and piss take. People pretending the emperor is wearing robes of golden silk should be utterly ashamed of themselves and they should be pilloried. Love the typo. Will shamelessly use it from now on!
Always a mistake to apologise I’m afraid albeit understandable.
Dusty
I agree. Besides, those nutters never accept an apology.
It's been odd watching all this unfold and how. They've co-opted so many people's natural inclination to be kind, empathetic and polite. Not make waves and to behave. That women are trained from birth to fall into the caring, kind, gentle, accepting role means this is where we are now as institutions have funnily enough decided to put these men's needs firmly above mostly children and women again and strangely then deny it and point the finger elsewhere not really accepting what they have been and still are doing. Want to be paid less? Sure, don't be greedy, what makes you better than anyone else? Why should you. Put up with being groped and harassed? It's your job and no one else mentioned it, stop fussing. It's a very short step to that man claiming to be a woman is obviously a woman, so shush you women nagging us that he isn't how dare you, get back in your place - that place we create and tell you you can have.
He probably wanted the doctor to treat his ‘she dick’ because it keeps swelling up. Is that normal doctor- yes its normal nobhead.
Tut tut tut cb , lady dick
It's the ones who call it lady dique as if making it sound a bit French makes it above criticism in their little fantasy world that made me stop in my tracks wanting to ask is this madness an actual real thing that they think we're going to fall for?? And then yes, whole parliaments and esteemed institutions seemed to.
Having taken a few calming deep breaths, the piece that horrifies me the most amongst this litany of horrors, is the piece about the University of Leicester’s trans guidance. What the fuck!! Can these people not see even a tiny part of the damage that this ideology is doing? Museums must promote gender ideology! The safety of children is at stake here. Where is the outrage and groundswell of anger? I don’t understand.
it's so shocking. So now I can't take my kids to museums! (we'll.. in that regard i'm lucky, they're teens now and not so keen!.. unlucky in other ways of course as .. PHSE (been on the phone to the school already to let them know I'm watching)). Shocking bullying of museum staff, shocking re-writing of history. Unacceptable.
I agree TT. Need to get rid of the embedded DEI people! Just have a read of some woke captions next to paintings in Tate Britain!
Dusty
Just read Wiki or something on 'trans'. Apparently, drawings of people with both male and female sex organs on Neolithic stones proves that there were 'trans' thousands of years ago. Nope. There may well have been people with both male and female sex organs, but they are not, and never were 'trans' - or were they carrying out 'trans' ops all those years ago? These people are quite mad.
I was in a Leicester Museum recently and there was palpable unhappiness in staff. I found out there have been some odd things happening behind the scenes (it usually does come out eventually). This does explain it - there are cuts and job losses handled very badly. That's where this new vision of what some think 'equality' is seems to gain a foothold and a few zealots then disrupt to the point of destroying an organisation from within.
It keeps surprising me how many are unaware that this is going on and still marching through our lives.
Same here. I keep expecting a sudden awakening and a mass revolt. Sadly, I think there are a lot of people who are vaguely aware but who prefer to keep their heads down. I can understand some of them, but I’m realising that alongside the virtue signallers, there are simply too many cowards.
tho it would be good if kids were actually being told that trans are usually fetishists....
It's age old misogyny, but it's also a sinister profit-driven manipulation of society. Noting that men also get cancelled if they are particularly pointed about reality (like Alex Burne). Silencing women is essential for this movement because no woman could accept this dehumanisation, and no mother can accept this future for her children (obviously some do, because they can't think critically.. argh). To force this profitable change on society you MUST silence women, because if women rise up, in enough numbers. it's over.
For the men who don't care; I can see why selfishly men could see this as an advantage for their sex.. the worst of them are removed form their spaces and categories, so men 'fly' with this regime. The best of men are standing up for and with women.
Sadly, though, many women ARE accepting of and encouraging this dehumanisation. The Education Minister in France being one. I'm not sure whom I hate more, the TRAs or the people, especially the women, who enable and celebrate and defend this dehumanising cult of female penis worship. It's beyond my comprehension why any woman would actively collude in the dehumanisation and erasure of her sex class.
I completely agree, it frustrates me so much, it's been a real eye opener to me about how misogynistic women can be! Elite women virtue signalling.. infuriates me.
I don't know if you managed to catch the secret union meeting in Canada to try and counter protest the parents in the million march. It was jaw dropping to see how many women thought bullying and intimidating parents was fine. A woman even presented a slide show on how to pull the rug out from under them. It included noise, bring loudspeakers, music, chant sheet, noise makers to drown them out. Female blue haired Uni lecturer gave a talk on her subject, Fascism, and how these parents and this anti gender movement was showing all the signs of it. The irony.
I saw a mention of that union meeting, I must watch it. The infiltration to groups and institutions with power is so significant. Shocking, all bullies, unable to listen and discuss respectfully.
Ms Smith head of Women’s Aid in Ireland called on people to protest against Posie’s rally!
Dusty
Yes, so I heard. It's good the woman haters of both sexes out themselves.
What a twat!
So many men don't see transwomen taking positions from natal women as an issue. I came across it last week when a committee I used to be a member of went from having a gender balance of 3 women and 4 men to being 3 men, 1 woman and a transwoman. I was then told that the balance was there with 3 men and 2 women. As the only GC female present, I didn't feel safe to challenge this 4 men, 1 woman committee. The transwoman has barged to the front of the line for our seat on the women's committee too. So that committee will have 2 women and 4 transwomen on it. Representing women, don't think so...
this is awful, and it's happening all over the place. Trans-identified are very motivated to get into positions of power and they also have a lot of time on their hands to do it. Very driven I think. In particular women who are busy carers.. are going to be severely under represented. NO trans identified man can (or is motivated to) represent women's issues.
(i didn't avoid using the word 'mother'.. I just wanted to also factor in how many women are giving their time to look after older people).
It's because they are men and retain all the male characteristics and drives that want control, power, domination, albeit, because they are generally Beta males, rather than Alpha, and cannot fight their own sex, they do it by trampling females into the ground. Same as they retain male patterns of criminal behaviour. Nothing actually changes.
I think UnaS is right, though. Women will eventually have had enough and take to the streets as the Suffragettes did, butt with even greater rage. They will be fighting to retain rights that they know they have as opposed to fighting for rights that men had and women never had. I do believe it will get bloody, but women will never back down.
Yes the suffragetes were told that women couldn't get vote, probably told we weren't intelligent enough or views weren't worth it as we were at home. However they never had their words taken away, they were never told they were not women, they were a selection of body parts that can be surgically replaced. Being mothers and breastfeeding their babies were never challenged. They did not have the vote but they were still Adult Human Females.
Indeed, Cathy. How any sane person can expect females to simply put up with this utter nonsense is beyond my comprehension. In Scotland, this shit is so tied up with the SNP and Greens - who are in government - that perfectly intelligent people are telling us to shut up for the sake of independence and let it all happen. In other words, females have to lose all their rights, and even their very existence, so that other Scots can be independent.
You would think that people who believe in independence and feel that their rights are not being respected in the UK would understand how females feel. Do they hell! We are being far too conciliatory to these paraphiliacs and fetishists, and real action needs to be taken.
Kelly-Jay Keen-Minshull's idea of a Women's party, just for biological women, is a great one, and she is one helluva fighter for women and girls, but I hope that she will expand its limits to include all female issues - pensions (or lack of), the pay gap, health issues, etc., and not limit it to this bilge water. If we are not careful, we are going to lose out big time right across the board and find ourselves in a pre Victorian parallel universe.
I do not, and never have, subscribed to the 'validation' theory. This is a men's rights movement that wants to push back on everything that women have achieved over the past century and more. Some of them hate us so much for being female that it is staggering because there is no basis for their hate. Most of these men are porn sick paraphiliacs and fetishists. How the hell is that our fault, although everything appears to be our fault? What they actually want - and saying, no, is the reason they become so enraged - is that every disgusting perversion under the sun should be a lifestyle choice and a sexual orientation.
The politicians who push this garbage must be held up to the light in their own lives. They appear to show no empathy for females our children. None. Frankly, the women who support this invasion of women's and children's rights are worse because they, themselves, will be affected directly, but they seem too stupid to understand what they are giving away to these men in frocks and their enablers. We also need to appeal to decent men who can follow the examples of Graham and Barry Wall, Clive Simpson and Dennis Kavanagh, and many, many more, who do see clearly what is going on, and who are doing a great deal to try and prevent it, and who are also targeted by this monstrous lobby of enablers. We, quite literally now, are fighting for our right to exist - as 50% of the human race.
Yes it's interesting to see how this goes, will people vote as I used to for Greens, wanted a few on council to do the right thing for environment, now I know they're just a sex party full of men in dresses, I'm sure you've seen the one laying on disabled toilet floor. They are actually an environmental hazard to women and children.
Cathy: the men who mutilate themselves and the women who do so, insult women who have had gynaecological surgery and breast surgery respectively, and who are left with lifelong medical issues. The only thing that stops me from actually hating these people for their woman-facing and man-facing is the realization that they are going to suffer the medical by-products of their gross narcissism and social contagion. I do feel sorry for those with dysphoria (actually dysmorphia) and they do need all the help they can get, but radical surgery and hormones are not it, and, certainly, puberty blockers for wee bairns, is inhuman.
I know I keep saying that to everyone, we are half the population and have no power. It is so frustrating.
JC I should have stayed in bed
Getting uglier , more vile , and more in yer face ( I will not use the word brave ) by the day
A plus note ‘tough crowd’ is the #1 best seller on Amazon 😀
And that doesn't include the pre-orders direct from the publisher! It's gonna be HUGE!
I asked the publisher about sales ( I had to contact them about another matter ) while they couldn’t give me exact figures they did say it was proving rather popular !! 😂
I wonder if JL had issues getting a publisher. My copy has hopefully been signed in Dublin my friend there ordered 2 .
Hooray!!
I've ordered my copy. can't wait!
this is great news thanks Petal! and your opening line gave me a smile so thanks for that.
Glinner got enormous cheer on Saturday 😎
Dusty
Welcome 😀
The German study reminds me of how I discovered what was going on and became... a TERF.
Some years ago I read a newspaper report about the conviction of a woman on serious child sex abuse charges. It was unusual enough to stick in my mind but I didn't think beyond the reported 'facts'.
Then, a year or so later, over the space of a couple of months, I read two more reports of women accused of child sex offences. I was horrified - what was happening to our society that suddenly women were committing what are typically male crimes? Or was it that these women had been going under the radar for years?
I was genuinely concerned and started looking online to see if anyone had identified a trend or was researching this. No-one reading this will be surprised at what I discovered, including the fact that further investigation of the two recent cases revealed that both perpetrators were indeed men.
My investigations led me to JL's Princess Mom and Aimee Challoner reports and a TERF was born!
Yes I am horrified by the way male crimes are being attributed to women. Reading about this German study felt like a punch in the gut.
It is going to effect all the stats on anything that should be recorded as female only. Not just crimes, but jobs, health outcomes, childcare issues. Gov pull on these figures to plan future spending. As further up this thread, top jobs have increasing no. of women, great, but it's men in dresses. Long term sickeness with women's health issues, menopause , oh its a man in a dress.
“Stimulate positive explorations of gender”-
thanks lie-cester university, department of advanced pharmaceutical marketing.
if you base a child’s development on a foundation of watered down excrement, expect subsidence.
These poor children that are denied a fundamental basic truth of our species. Shame on all of them.
Our children. Everyday i am continuously shocked at the lack of commitment to our children’s mental and physical health.
People should be lining the air waves to tell children that they are as God or natural selection made them and anything society tells them is some agenda bullshit.
I saw three girls the other day, beautiful 12/13 year old children walking down the street, all
of them 2/3 stone lighter than they should have been. All bought some shit someone /some abuser had sold them. Too fat. Too fat. Be thin, be thinner. Shame on the machine and its fucking agenda lying to those children.
How can children live their best lives when the adult world is always shaping them and grooming them for current and future profits.
Like the gambling fuckers marketing to children and the vapes and the national lottery with its big fun displays which definitely are designed to appeal to children. I know because mine flock to them. A table of joy with pens and things to circle and colour in. A special little place for the people in the club.
Fuck you national lottery. Fuck you and you flashing screens. Fuck you gambling. Fuck you social media.
"That's Capitalism for ya!"
it fucking stinks Harry. And i’m not a communist. But i expect/hope for legislation to protect people from becoming exploited by the ruling elite. If we want to be free society and business need boundaries. Sorry for ranting and sounding all preachy. Brings out the worst in me this topic.
Cheers CB. I'm sure we all feel the same here. This TRA crap has been an unholy alliance between- anti-democratic billionaires, predatory criminal paedophiles, misogynists, homophobes, misfit grifters who could get no other job except the newly-invented bogus 'equity champion', failed male athletes who can win and profit from taking over women's sports, failed academics who try and invent their own fake subjects to teach. ruthless big pharma, and cruel unscrupulous plastic surgeons. It feels like it avoids a left wing/right wing binary (-hah! see what I did there?) because this madness does not relate to any political philosophy. But TRAs were clever, and hijacked the left wing support for liberation struggles, and pretended that trans rights should be the number one priority human rights issue... At least it is therapeutic to say these things, because my mind is still boggling at this outrageous and evil situation...
indeed Harry. I often rant here for therapeutic reasons. Not sure how helpful it is tbh but at least i take comfort in knowing that others share these worries. Best wishes.
Same here, it’s all so awful, we need a ‘support group’.
its here Ms Terfin. we’re all here for each other. Playing rant tennis and misgender the nobhead!
So gynaecologists are supposed to waste their time pretending to treat autogynephile males?
If this does not "peak" people, nothing will.
oh my goodness what an edition. I was getting really upset as usual and angry and then found myself pissing myself at the bit about the gynaecologist expected to treat a man’s fictional vagina. Its just amazing. Fucking hell though. This edition helps one see just how deep this poison has penetrated all parts of the system. And yet our political leaders are still doing f all.
If this idiot had one half of the treatment that women go through he would have been out of that door like a shot.
yes, ultimately I blame the politicians for how far this fiction has rooted in society.
the politicians are usually like 3/4 years behind reality, well thats probably bullshit, more like decades. But given whats at stake. There are truly failing us
and not failing me….. i’m a man. I’m doing just fine thanks.
Point well made, cb. Most of them are men, too.
They're failing everyone who values freedom of expression, evidence based science and civil discourse.
Do they trot along and tell the gynae what to do? I mean, they would be clueless about what happens in real appointments so do they expect a 'procedure' and what do they expect? Does the clinician get into scrubs and dance around the room incanting something? Wave a speculum at them or their general direction? Do they lie down? Sprinkle holy water? I guess they can examine their ego and book another appointment to see how much it swelled in another 18 months.
maybe they think the doctor would do a sort of make over? Try a new look?
Of course. Maybe they think you draw out your soul womanliness when the gynae paints your toenails as your feet are up in stirrups and that's the truly professional way to get a pedicure (which means 'intimate exam'). I am seriously fulminating about these selfish bar stewards and their endless, endless, relentless exaggerated demands to waste precious very limited resources on services they don't need, which wastes and therefore withholds that provision from others - those, and only those who need it, often for life-saving reasons. ****ing **** :-( and the nitwit institutions pushing this.
All this did you or did you ever have a uterus nonsense where we are self-lobotomising on a national scale having to pander to this crap.
Fume away TSBBL. I really think this ideology is on its way out. The parents at school who just don’t think about it, well as soon as it effects their kids they are like… NO, no way. No timmy can dress as a girl and say he is a girl, but he’s not going anywhere near the actual girls. Not on our watch. Time’s running out for them. Team reality is being woken up every day.
I met a Dr at SFW event, her excited "female" consultant in UK allowed a man into her gynae clinic as his frankenfanny was bleeding in A&E. He jumped an entire waiting room of women. Had a speculum exam and was prescribed antibiotics. The Dr asked what the consultant thought she would see with a speculum, but the consultant was floating on a cloud of virtue signalling.
unbelievable. the gynae consultant kept women waiting so she could ramp up the pretenders affirmation experiences. just unbelievable
"Trans women" need a gynecologist?
Absolutely Barking.
THere are many people out there who really believe all these TRAs have had their penises turned inside out, just like that and women have had their vaginas turned inside out too.
Often just telling them 99% still have their tackle is a game changer, if you can get in, even prisoners in womens prison.
What a shit show that we are watching!
Thanks as ever, JL.
The vast majority of TIMs look ridiculous but Mr Antonio takes the biscuit.
I am pleased to see more detransitioners’ legal cases in the States- together with the UK cases I feel these will be essential in shutting the door on ‘affirmative care’ for children. Will cross post on this tomorrow.
On way back from Dublin after attending LWS and still keeping hold of the buzz!
Molly Mo Thoin 😎 A man, a man oh 😎
Dusty
I honestly do not understand how you do it, Graham. I stick up for you every chance I get. In Scotland, we are supposedly to have a new misogyny law, and guess what? Dame Helena Kennedy - yet another male penis worshipper - has insisted in the review that TiMs should be included. It just gets worse and worse for us up here. So, fake women will have 'transphobia' and misogyny on their side. One woman in "Women Won't Wheesht' suggested that the first person to be charged under the new act will almost certainly be a gender critical female. You couldn't make this up. Except they do. Helena Kennedy, advocate and barrister, born in Scotland, but based in England for many years, was chosen from a host of female advocates in Scotland to adjudicate on this review/study, because she is as 'woke' as they come and at one remove from Scotland.
My ex-husband, a "post op" male who ideated a female persona (secretly at first) from the time I was about 6 months pregnant with our second son (1991) is a database management executive His firm serves world class museums around the world, including The Tate, has a special "pronouns page" and conducts museum staff in online and remote courses on introducing the concept that we don't know the actual sex of say, Da Vinci or Rembrandt, so it's perfectly fine to say "they/them" and use your imagination how they'd look if they did self portraits as "female." Oh yes, middle aged AGPs are promoting this, for museum staff to teach to visiting school groups. BTW, he claimed he was a "data entry" worker, rather than honestly say he's COO and in an equity contract, to get out of paying child support for the 2 sons he fathered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuYMWwIa0oY&t=8s
Thank you Ute. The links with tech and all the behind the scenes is clear isn't it - these individuals have the power to influence and shape how everything is done and it explains how comprehensively this ideology has spread and was embedded almost invisibly in not only our health, criminal justice and education sectors but all our cultural institutions too. In our perceptions of ourselves and looking out to the world and time - to recast it again in their own image. The layers and layers of lies are quite something to behold.
Thank you. The truly odious vein of corruption I've detected is the fact that men like my ex-husband have been lying to the very therapists they pay, for the purpose of obtaining letters to the surgeons. They never admit the abuse they've subjected their wives to, or the fact they use their children as props. The psychologists/therapists/psychiatrists willfully ignore their patients' obvious narcissism. Blanchard maintained the concept that if these dudes are holding a job, they are upstanding members of society and "what happens behind closed doors" is between two consenting adults. While Zucker appears to have treated children with cross-sex ideation, Blanchard formulated his "Protocols" for men who, in his words, find "it too disturbing to acknowledge it is a sexual fetish." But clearly, he knew his patients were coercing their wives into the fetish. There are many, many false narratives and mistaken assumptions in psychology and sociology---the existence of "true trans" is one of them.
Reading and looking at how these things have grown over decades it really is one or two experts in these fields - I think most here know the names now but I am still surprised how much weight is still attached and wonder how they've not been debunked. I studied some of them in college psychology and it really was one man thought this, then another man thought that, then another built on or argued against that which has by then become a 'school' of thought. Then it's fifty odd years later and a billion pound industrial complex. Then spurious 'research' to back up some theory, which then filters down to actual practice and application in healthcare and our lives - which I find terrifying as it's built on sand.
Too many 'experts' have the gall to think 'it's a new field, it's my field, name it after me!' and it's that symbiosis of odious personalities that feed off each other - patients/professionals/patients. Kerching.
Having a job and all the 'normal' average trappings of expected societal norms is a cover for a lot isn't it and always has been. Like the mass murderers and afterwards their neighbours are interviewed that 'he was a nice bloke who said hello and kept himself to himself'. It seems such a naive way to live. Honestly, call something 'a protocol' and you enshrine that as something formal and accepted - all this adding tweaks to the formularies and diagnostic manuals. They brought this into life by formalising it as a thing. Formalise it in insurance and accounting mechanisms to professionalise 'being trans'. It's not a thing! No matter what drop down code you dream up to describe your multiple fetishes.
Exactly! In the case of the sex trait modification cult, it filtered its way through Judith Butler's nonsense writing, not read it myself, but everyone who did says it's illogical, nonsensical and simply calculated to sell. I grew up in "latte town" Madison, Wisconsin, and saw my friends' professor parents (my father was in business, organizing the 401k plans for the commie academics) pose the most far out ideas, from their wonderful, historic houses in University Heights, on how we must dismantle "the system." Then they sent their kids to Oberlin, where a women's lacrosse coach is being cancelled for saying male bodies have an unfair advantage in women's sport. Come to think of it, lots of those friends didn't launch until well into their 30s, dontchaknow? (<Wisconsin dialect)
Of course they love the True Trans story.
The real story of narcissism, envy, porn addiction, parapilia is much less appealing than a boy who liked to dance in dress. Although even that could be early parphilia as in Eddie Izzard and his mums clothes.
another thing about these mental universities pushing this harmful poison onto children is i won’t let my kids get into massive debt to go to these micky mouse institutions. Aren’t they worried that if their plan for complete global brain control fails they’ll end up looking like failed dictators.
I keep telling my wee petal , get a trade not a uni (pah) degree , I dread to think of her going to uni
She’s having a four day week , Monday dancer , Tuesday singer , Wednesday gp , Thursday artist , then she’s done
She does make me laff 😊
I saw a recent article saying debt will be £78,000 in future, not including living expenses, just the course.
Tuition here is free ( at present ) but yes I don’t doubt that will be the figure
Hence why I tell my wee petal to get a trade
My niece is an electrician and makes a fortune