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It's bad enough that the police are advertising political messages at all, but on their riot shields? Their RIOT SHIELDS?

Doesn't anyone remember what they *did* with those things during the miners strike and countless conflicts since? These are not fun accessories, they are at best necessary tools for protection against violence and - all too often - weapons for committing it.

And *that's* where they choose to paint their - already deeply worrying - political slogans?

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It really is surreal, isn't it? The police have been totally and utterly Stonewalled.

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Remember the 'degenerettes' and their baseball bats? Same energy.

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That's exactly what I thought!

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It is always good to remember that people do not riot, the police do.

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Oh, the ubiquitous trope Munchie Mums parrot about kids tryna cut off their willies. WTF was a three year old doing near scissors? Did he partly sever it and need hospital treatment? Stitches? Why wasn't he immediately sent for psychiatric evaluation? Why weren't Social Services involved? Makes me sick and livid 🤬

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From the description of the incident in the papers, he didn't actually harm himself but his mother though he was about to. I'm no expert but I understand that if a child is trying to mutilate their own genitals this is a massive red flag and can be indicative of abuse. But this woman immediately decided that it means her child is 'in the wrong body' and stuck him in a wig and a leopard skin crop top instead. I mean... that's so much better than having to explain to friends and family why your son hates football and likes dolls, eh?? Honestly, these people are despicable. I hope someone rescues that poor little boy before its too late.

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I love footie and am less bothered by dolls, so does that make me a man? Where do I get my certificate?

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So many worrying things in that story. The scissors at 3 FFS, the glitter, wig, make up including false eyelashes, the poses. The mother is now 25 with an 8 year old child - so 17 or so when Logan was born. How hard has that been? How much temptation to become an internet celeb and rake in the money?

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When did this trend begin of putting small children in heavy makeup? I never wore that much when I occasionally wore makeup. My mother was horrified when I was a baby because people asked her if she had bleached and permed my hair.

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I had to fight to be allowed make up when I was 14 or 15. When there was a fashion for bare midriffs my father used to say 'you're not going out unless you put a vest on'. FFS - all these sexual clothes and accoutrements for young children. Dreadful.

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Every shopping mall and street is a peados wet dream.

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Totally. And here we go with pedophilia again.

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Yes, both children are heavily made up and vulgarly dressed

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I am certain that the reason we've not been allowed to see any breakdown of the public response to the Scottish consultation is that the public overwhelmingly rejects the idea. As for the Dublin thing... exerting promises from children to lie to people about their material reality so that they will be more comfortable having irreversible body modification surgeries and sterilizing themselves is really negligence verging on evil.

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Absolutely right, Bin Chicken.

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Yes, the lack of percentages is disgraceful.

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I'm reading Capital Volume I and just finished a chapter about Scots and Irish history regarding throwing small landholders off their property, using the police/soldiers to do it (to force people into industrial slavery and to engage in agricultural capitalism). When you read about "clearances," you know the governments involved in it are capable of ANYTHING against their own people and apparently they have not changed their ways.

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The problem with reporting it in this way is that it normalises it even further and other people will latch on to it. Genuinely terrified by what is happening to children right now.

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I quite agree. I thought the line about Logan being thought of as 'cool' by his peers at school is VERY telling.

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Exactly this!

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My kids are in primary school and I live in dread of the day that one of them comes home with some gender ideology propaganda or says they've learned some girl-in-boy-body lesson at school. Not only will I have to go full Valkyrie on the school system, I pray that I have spent enough time carefully being honest with my kids about every single thing that they will trust me when I have to say that the people positioned as authorities and trusted with educating them are, in fact, lying to them.

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Just checked out the "Best Rated" comments and they're 100% TERFtastic with thousands of 👍s so rather than normalise, these articles peak the unpeaked. As I've said before, the more outrageous, the younger, the poutier, the more self-mutilating, the trashier the wannabe sleb mum they get, the better for us 😜

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In the nineties when my foster daughter was in middle school, it was cool to pretend to be gay and boys were using nail polish, etc. But no lasting ill-effects!

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Even in the 70s, with glam rock and David Bowie but I expect most of us turned out as we would have even without those acts

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The readers' comments with the amounts of 'like' made for interesting reading. Well worth a read.

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Ah is going to be gas craic in Dublin schools...sir sir i would like me pronouns to be your Majesty

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Validate me, peasant!

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RE Logan. I read that article and thought the mother was odd. She says it's normal for kids to experiment with gender and dressing up, yet admits to shaming him over the toys he prefers and forcing him to play with "boys toys", thus giving him an "Something's wrong" complex. And somehow she thinks being a girl means suddenly wearing skimpy clothes, false eyelashes, and fur coats like a tiny prostitute. Sorry, that's how I think he looks. Almost sexualised, like a teenager.

Why has she told him that's how girls must act? He's got it from somewhere.

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Both children wear inappropriate clothes and make up. The readers' comments underneath the article show most people find the whole thing tasteless

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Yes. There's a bit of the same old class commentary going on here - how the pilloried lower classes dress their kids like chavs shocker, cue likely outrage from Owen Jones that it's working class, so pure and above reproach. No, dressing him like a tiny drag queen is not equality and diversity. It used to be similar with ear and belly button piercing for babies and young teens. Children as mini adults with no capacity to consent or understand consequences.

The inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse is reporting on the worrying normalisation of sexualised behviours, sharing of images and porn by young children. Now how is that happening?

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Why or were men and women separated into their own spaces and why is that not deemed important now?

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An 8 year old trans kid is like a vegan cat - we all know who didn't make that decision.

Also, David Paisley needs to have his hard drive checked. Just saying.

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The photo on the left immediately made me flash back to pics of prostituted children on sex tourism sites. This is someone’s sick fantasy.

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It is. But I find it even more disturbing that it's the mum who is enabling that sick fantasy at the expense of her own child.

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We were regularly kerb-crawled as a girls in plain, boring, below the knee, polyester school uniforms which seemed to be rebranded as 'kink' and being so sexy you're asking for it. Does she consider that with him dressed in false eyelashes or a luscious long wig, which have no other purpose than to signal your attraction to others?

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That's right Paisley, bodies are just bodies, and ribbons are just bloody ribbons too!

Glad to find Hilary Mantel is speaking out.

She's of course aware of idiots going nuts over nothing, eg her measured comments on Kate Middleton (which provoked hysterical reactions) and her story 'The Assassination of Margaret Thatcher' published AFTER Thatcher died but which triggered moronic shocked comments by the likes of David Cameron, who had not read the story, and threats of calling the police. 'Bring it on' I think she replied. I'd have therefore been so disappointed if I'd found out she was afraid to speak out. What a great woman and writer.

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Yes, I love her writing & was delighted to read that interview. So glad she is the woman I took her for!

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Do eight year old girls dress up like this of their own accord?

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Only when their mum behaves and dresses in an overly sexualised way I believe

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Or if other little girls they know or in their neighbourhood or family do (because of their upbringing or exposure to this). Or they see their peers online. I once bought some second hand, beige, fake snakeskin and very high, strappy heels at a junior school raffle when I was about 6. Donated by the small-footed, perfumed, back-combed, heavily made-up mum of a girl in my class who was also really girly girly and a bit manipulative. My mother went ballistic at my prize and I was allowed to keep them, but only for dress up in the house.

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Good God the state of Laurie Penny. "You should feel bad!" Quickly followed by "how should I know how a teen girl should feel when sexually assaulted?" She calls herself a feminist and apologises for sex abuse of children in the same damn tweet. So much for that Oxford education. Blatant hypocrisy without even a hint of irony. What a shit show!

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GAH! Honestly I could not get past the TODDLER having SCISSORS ✂️. Hello? What kind of mother leaves scissors lying around a toddler?? 🚩🚩🚩🚩 Will read the rest when I calm down. Seriously… Toddler. Scissors. FFS!!

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That poor little boy! A woman who ran a small business I used to shop at has three boys and one of them (either the middle or youngest son, I can't recall which) was extremely feminine, unlike his brothers. I remember her posting about how she found out he was a "trans girl" - I still accepted the gender extremists' articles of faith but even then, felt uneasy about the idea that a little boy who prefers watching Frozen to watching the footy and pink teddy bears to blue one is "really a girl". I thought, "hang on, couldn't he just be a little boy who likes Frozen and pink soft toys? She knows her kid better than I, I suppose". She told a similar story: more masculine brothers teasing him about being "like a girl", he defiantly says, "I AM a girl" and she found him trying to cut his penis off with scissors at the age of four. This woman and her husband knew nothing about transgenderism so helpful staff at his kinder then "educated" them and talked them into socially transing this kid. The parents believed they were doing the best thing for their son. This would have been about five years before I met this woman - I met the kid once and he was well and truly presenting as stereotypically feminine, using a female name and being referred to as "she/her". Although by then I was questioning how "progressive" and logical this whole "born in the wrong body" narrative was, I went along with it to be polite.

It is horrible. In the case of the woman I knew, these were fairly unsophisticated parents, didn't follow the news, weren't homophobic - they just accepted the advice of people they thought knew better.

More recently, I found out that my brother and his wife had a similar experience. Their oldest son was obsessed with numbers and maths and a bit reserved with strangers. When he was about 6, some well-meaning counsellors at his school who'd been to some conference or other decided he was on the autism spectrum. My sister-in-law agreed to an assessment during which this fairly stereotypically masculine little boy was asked to play a game called "Dolly's Tea Party". He wasn't interested. This, rather than evidence that my nephew is not interested in pretending a doll is having a party, was seized on as evidence of Autism. Fortunately my dad and stepmother - who know what Autism is because my cousin is Autistic, and who also had been socially awkward child who didn't do normal little girl things all the time, ie me - convinced my brother and sister-in-law not to go along with imposing a diagnosis on such a flimsy basis and simply let Alex (not his real name) be Alex. Five years later, Alex's social anxiety has eased and he's thriving at school without the need for any additional services.

I told Dad that if Alex had jumped at the chance to role play "Dolly's Tea Party" one of those workers would probably have tried to trans him.

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