(Warning, this post concludes with a graphic image of what is called ‘trans health care’. I include it here so that these politicians know exactly what they’re trying to do to young, confused, often autistic, often gay kids.) So let’s have a look at one of these ‘life-saving treatments’ that Jeremy Corbyn and his friends are endorsing. For those confused, it’s a fake penis formed from the skin a girl’s leg.
When that "conversion therapy" is talking a girl out of carving her leg up to look like she survived being run over by a train and having a skin tube sewn onto her body, that resembles a pastry roll, MAYBE it's a good thing. Maybe it's not conversion. Maybe they need even stronger psychiatric help.
These are the images and videos that need to be sent to MPs NOW. These trans surgeries are barbaric.
67% chance it’s not going to take. I can’t believe we are living in a time where removing breasts and creating a penis out of leg skin, destroying fertility and removing the ability to orgasm is considered progress. I no longer recognize those who promote this. This is not liberal. It’s appalling harm and should be banned.
its why i get so angry at the innocent phrases they use to describe double masectomies and the multi op genital carving up as 'top' and 'bottom' surgery. It makes it sounds like surgical carving up of your genitals and trying to fashion a smilie of the oppositve sex's is as easy as plug and play on your computer. No wonder so many trans people are disapointed at their results and thats even when the Op goes right.
Labour continues to alienate itself from the electorate with its slavish devotion to identity politics. Virtue signalling to the metropolitan elite and the idiots on Twitter is more important than the lives that will be ruined by a ban on talking therapy regarding gender. I feel ashamed to have voted for Corbyn - he is a naive fool living in cloud cuckoo land.
The interesting thing for me about watching that debate yesterday was that I felt that many, if not the majority, of those speaking in favour of a ban on 'conversion' seemed to genuinely believe what they were promoting. So this suggests a couple of possibilities: The best is that they are naive but misinformed. The worst is that they are downright stupid and lazy and therefore misinformed, not having thoroughly looked into what trans generally means (no, it is not synonymous with being gay, at all) and also not having looked into what trans 'conversion therapy' would actually entail: an opportunity for a very young person (usually) to explore with a therapist if they really understand the implications of life changing, long term medical procedures. If these MPs who spoke up yesterday are all indeed stupid and lazy, and these are the people we pay to make laws on our behalf, then democracy is in very, very bad shape.
Democracy is in bad shape if it ever existed at all. We have no leaders, just people behind the scenes pulling the strings of their puppets. And in our complex and overwhelmingly alienated societies, we actually need leaders with moral courage.
I suspect that Corbyn has been misled about trans and thinks he's opposing a potential human rights violation. But he's the former leader of the opposition and there's no excuse for being so misinformed. He is indeed the crank that so many of his critics said he was six or seven years ago!
Ambitious surgeons need a challenge that befits their talents and sense of superiority. What better challenge than to convert a man into a woman and vice versa. They are modern day Dr. Frankensteins. I really didn't need to see this picture to work it out.
They don't realise that going down the affirmation, blockers, surgery route IS conversion therapy of the worst kind. It's gay conversion therapy in many instances and utterly barbaric. What I always get stuck on is the lack of any oppositional left wing analysis of this phenomenon. It's as though they've all accepted that the left position is one of support for the trans cabal. I've always been on the Left and fail to see how encouraging choice-based surgery, and the notion that you can 'pick' your identity, is anything but an acquiescence to the most extreme neoliberal, market economy, free for all, right wing Idealism. It's no accident that many older trans people are libertarian. Of course many socialist feminists are pointing out the material basis of women's oppression, and how biology is not innate destiny but is the foundation of socially sanctioned exploitation of women's reproductive capacity, and it is this experience of being female in a patriarchal society that forms our identity whether we like it or not; social being conditions consciousness and all that. Left wing feminism worked through all these arguments years ago. It's so disappointing to realise that we have forgotten them.
I have read criticism of trans ideology by leftist writers and commenters on leftist websites. Yes, so-called progressives have totally signed onto transgenderism, but I have also seen a slow awakening on the part of genuine leftists that this is a very dangerous, very ugly ideology. One editor of a leftist website told me he thinks transgenderism is a psychological operation on the part of the government. And I can hear all those squeaky voices crying, "Conspiracy theorist! Conspiracy theorist!" but that's why I continually ask people to think about why our governments are supporting this utterly monstrous bullshit.
When you say "our governments", I guess you mean USA and Canada? Here in the UK, it's the governing Tory party that has started to talk sense about gender; all the opposition parties (apart from a few brave individuals) seem totally captured by the gender cult.
I think an important question to ask is "Cui bono?" - who stands to benefit from this? and the obvious answer is Big Pharma!
Yes, yes, yes, big pharma. Yes, yes, yes, misogyny. However, I don't think these are sufficient explanation for ALL our governments', including yours, support for transgenderism. The Tories are cashing in on Labour's utter capture, but they could be quashing the NHS's subservience to this ideology, couldn't they? And this website has certainly covered Tory support for this crap.
While I certainly wouldn't be surprised if China, Russia, and other hostile foreign powers were using this destructive ideology against us... I don't think that they invented it. We-- the western world-- carried the seeds of "trans" within us: the various cultural elements which eventually came together to produce this noxious hybrid weed. Same as happened with the U.S. opioid epidemic, you know? That, too, was the product of multiple factors-- and identifiable "bad guys" (Purdue Pharma, etc.) were only some of them.
This reminds me of something that American horror author Stephen King once said about his favorite fiction genre. Horror stories are usually about what he terms "outside evil"-- the "thing from another world", etc. So "we"-- the Good Guys-- simply have to defeat it and get things back to normal. Because all was well before that goddamn psycho-killer/bloodthirsty shark/rampaging monster showed up. What makes this the most common narrative is its essential conservatism: Us vs Them. Very reassuring. That's a crowd-pleaser. Much less common is the story of "inside evil"-- where, to paraphrase political cartoonist Walt Kelly's Pogo Possum, "we have met the enemy and he is us."
I think that's the kind of horror movie we're now living in. One where the monster is of our own making. Every culture has its dark side... and sometimes, terrible fuckin' shit crawls outta there. I've been trying to trace the lineage of this one-- what spawned it. Anyone have any ideas?
@Free - see my comment to Susan - I certainly do not blame the people of undemocratic countries for their despot rulers nor fail to despair about our present government (altho at last they are pushing back a bit) and unfortunately all the opposition. I do agree with you about Big Pharma .... always follow the money; and I'm not meaning to attack socialists per se .... just friggin harmful woke exploiters - all of em!
Get rid of woke and Labour might have my vote back - I'm for a mixed economy fyi. So I'm left on some things, right on others and not generally extreme other than not believing that the best thing for dysmorphia is to harm your healthy body etc etc. So please see my comment to @Susan, then tell me what you think?
Nah I'm not 'blaming everything on foreigners' - not my intention AT ALL. I'm trying to understand how this stuff has been so successful without anyone voting for it. And yes there are such things as agent provocateurs aka shit stirrer spies .... not that we dont do the same to other countries ... anyhoo the comment is there and really would value your opinion after you've read it. Thanks.
After having watched the interview (you tube) of Yuri Bezmenov, an ex member of the KGB conducted in 1984, I can well believe that a psychological warfare has been conducted against Americans by Russia. He lays it out clear. Corrupt morals, create apathy and hopelessness to destroy from within. He said this had been a long term strategy used since middle of 20th century.
yup .... easier to destroy a democracy and no doubt there is counter spying but we're not very good at it [anyone remember the fake rock tape recorder?]
I find blaming China and Russia for OUR OWN STUPIDITY, our own lack of engagement, our own lack of awareness of the world around us, to be beneath contempt.
Well, I am not referring to the people of those countries. It's not as simple as that, I do agree @Susan - as @Free says, it needs inside 'evil' too - which alongside gullibility is tragically always present as part of the effin awful human condition at times [which includes moi, so I'm happy to be challenged on this - but rather not be insulted].
Anyhoo see below for my thinking on this fwiw :
my rough understanding [see Helen Pluckrose and James sthing - sry forgot name] in 'Cynical Woke Theories' was Gramsci's idea about 70 years ago for cultural marxism to march through the institutions to replace 'capitalist hegemony' ...
... then French post mod philosophers and some from Germany .... with the failure of communism/outing of Stalin's crimes and liberal democratic populations losing their trad religions ...
So this idea of changing perception on the basis of a utopian ideology [aka new woke religion] was easy for liberals looking for meaning - especially far left white Westerners too clever to think realistically about reality? Plus you can make big bucks on the woke grift ocourse. So I can see that the enemies of democracies might chuck a few million the TRA way!
You're very fortunate to live in a democracy. The U.S. has never been a democracy; it was founded as a republic and it has spent its entire existence making sure that ordinary people are not heard from.
You know the West's primary enemy? Itself! Even Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times recognized this in a column. The first thing Westerners need to stop doing is to stop thinking they are the center of the universe. Then next they need to attempt to transcend their culture and propaganda and look at themselves critically and as objectively as possible. I am so sick of Western superiority, Western self-righteousness, Western self-congratulation. If you could stop for one second and understand what the "West" did to Russia and China -- invasion, destruction, constant subversion -- you might be a bit more thoughtful.
Yebbut men includes Mr Menno and ocourse Glinner cos it's his substack obvs. Seems just as the West was making good progress on dismantling patriarcnhal institutions and attitudes, equality of women n acceptance of lesbians n gays, this friggin stuff comes to jam up the works! EDIT - not just jam up but make new harms and unresolved safeguarding n free speech issues even worse.
Yeah, that's why I specified "gender-men", you know? Meaning men as shaped by gender. Which warps and twists all too many of them. So they end up entitled, believing themselves superior to women, often creepy, even scary. But plenty of men reject gender telling them to be misogynistic assholes. That's the difference between men as they inherently are-- simply adult male people-- and men as... male-gender-role-creatures. If we could just drive a stake through the rotten heart of gender once and for all, the latter would cease to afflict us (and good riddance!), and the former would define the male sex. Which is how it should be.
Yeah... and, more specifically, its "gender-men": those demonstrating the true nature of male privilege. Which ultimately always ends up looking like... this :(
Also contributing to this toxic T stew (imo):
* most people (mis)understanding "trans" as "the new gay", and therefore assuming that to question or oppose it must mean you're some Westboro Baptist Church-style, fire-breathing homophobe
* due to the above, most people assuming that "transwoman" = "gay man", and thus that there's no danger of predatory behavior from them in women's restrooms/locker rooms
* the recent rise in autism rates (thanks to an economic system where women, in particular, must delay childbearing till middle age)
* a U.S. healthcare system that's fee-for-service (thus encouraging procedures for their own sake) and based on private insurance (which would rather pay for medications & operations than talk therapy)
* the intensive "gendering" of products marketed to children over the last 20 years, so that EVERYTHING-- even stuff previously treated as unisex-- is either "for girls" or "for boys", thus steeping kids in sex-stereotyping from day one (though the original purpose was to make parents buy two separate toys for their son and daughter, instead of having the children share one)
* the relatively sudden mainstream acceptance of LGB, which I suspect even many liberal/progressive types weren't entirely prepared for, or comfortable with... but naturally can't acknowledge, even to themselves (and if they can just "trans away the gay" in their kids, don't need to! Why, it makes you even MORE gay-friendly! Somehow!)
* the apparently-pervasive subconscious belief that gay men are "really" women, and lesbians are "really" men (I'd never have imagined this would still be around in the goddamn 21st century, and yet... look how readily people accept the idea that same-sex attraction means you must be the opposite sex)
* the assumption that a man identifying AS a woman must mean that he also identifies WITH women
* the assumption that "trans" = rejection of gender roles (when it actually serves to reinforce them)
And there's plenty more where those came from! But what do you guys think of my list so far?
Good and horrible list! Thx. Just when I thought Barbie dolls were gonna disappear all this intellectual bs cult gets 'scientific' status - can't grrrrrr enuf.
Might've been me! I've often referred to the "TQ+" as "Pod People", given their drive to not only steal the identities of, but actually REPLACE, women and LGB people.
Maybe that makes Graham and the rest of us here a collective Kevin McCarthy, desperately shouting, "You're next!" at the imperiled yet oblivious public...
Mmm well at least the 'trans women' cant actually reproduce [EDIT as in get pregnant/give birth] as current technology stands ... altho saw a Genspect vid with a 'trans man' saying no-one even told her of the dangers or that she could still get preggers on T ffs. Or ocourse that she risked loss of sexual feelings if she got a plastic todger surgery. Thx for the link.
Reading Joanna Williams 'How Woke Won' ... unfortunate title but the subtitle is 'The Elitist Movement That Threatens Democracy, Tolerance and Reason'. You read it? Would recommend.
So far I agree with her .... her stance seems to try to show how brilliant n it all is for global corporations to divide and conquer anyone who wants actual social justice for exploited ppl whilst selling more product and attracting more investment. No spies mentioned as yet!
Yes but that doesn't make sense when we have the NHS - tho I know they're trying to sell it off, so maybe it is just the gender clinics being ready and waiting to take people off the NHS waiting lists. I'm sure Big Pharma is going to price hike all cross sex hormones in a few years too. But it's why all the opposition parties are towing this line simultaneously. I'm starting to think Susan's editor friend is on the right track and starting to think they are all being funded by someone, or several orgs, and it's a condition of their funding that they tout this line. Perhaps Arcus Foundation or WEF? Does seem a concerted global attack and very top down. Sinister sh*t.
I think it has been happily fomented by Russia and China, however it started, they must be laughing at how we are pulling our society apart. Ditto CRT.
Yes I have often thought that .... so many similarities with cultural revolutions .... exploiting children, adolescents, unquestioning activist mobs ....spies n all? I'm not a great fan of conspiracy theories but this one seems worth considering :
Remember how one of the gay Labour shadow cabinet members had been employing a Chinese spy? [Barry Gardiner]. Corbyn is already credulous [remember how he denied Russia could possibly have anything to do with the Skrypal poisoning and was happy to appear on Russian Tv?].
And isn't TikTok owed by the Chinese but they won't have it available in PR China? Not to mention all that money sloshing around stolen by the Russian Oligarchs .... And Chinese money towards universities incl science n medicine, CPS, civil service ..... etc etc Tories too .... capitulation by corporations via social media propaganda and 'educated HR/PR' ?? hence lack of constructive action to stop the nonsense even [or especially] spreading to the criminal justice system/police, schools, women's refuges, BBC, churches and NHS? [etc!]
Of course you could add Nicola Sturgeon taking tea with the Ayatollahs ... seems she'll take money wherever she can get it 'for the cause' [of her coronation?].
So for me political and institutional corruption is the only explanation as to why/how rational human beings have been brainwashed to deny biological reality, obvious and extreme dangers and harms - and how any other gender-contrary views or treatment of the dysmorphia it promotes are condemned as 'hate speech' and 'conversion therapy'.
Question is - how do we stop it all, as stop it all we must.
A society which idolises external sexualised appearance and freedom to choose 'identities' out of an identity flavoured chocolate box - our desires are paramount rather than valuing individual human worth; and connection on basis of respect including self respect?
Well done. Easiest thing in the world to go on TikTok and witter on about "finding your own true self" - not so easy to explain that butchery, let alone sell it as a fashionable lifestyle choice. The more kids see these grotesque pictures, the more reality stands a chance of getting through to them instead of the 'sparkly unicorn' bullshit of gender ideology.
Hopefully. I could see it going the other way, though, along the lines of the next step in extreme body modification - pictures of self-harm double-mastectomies seem to get a depressing number of likes.
What a bunch of tossers. Ever one of them should be ashamed of their anti-women stance, but particularly the women for being taken in by a thoroughly misogynistic ideology. If women are not some trans stereotype of what it is to be a women then they must be men? And if a man ‘feels’ he’s a woman he must be affirmed as such immediately? What utter drivel.
If talking to someone stops women from medicalisation that leads to menopause, infertility, osteoporosis and lack of sexual function, or surgery that leads to breast removal, then it must be allowed, no ifs or buts.
Sickening beyond belief. I don’t think I will ever forgive those who have endorsed the trans ideology. By this point they should KNOW what they are promoting. No excuses.
That photo should peak the world. But it won't. Not right this minute. But it will, eventually. When mass social and mainstream media are honest, and no longer 'gatekeep' the truth on behalf of the 'gender' cult.
I can pretty much guarantee that if you talked to any of those virtue signalling MPs they would not have a clue what they are talking about. They will have no idea that conversion therapy for trans people means making therapy and counselling illegal because no-one is doing anything else to convert them (apart form surgeons and that apparently is the affirmative "care" route). Once again it is why the LGB needs to be decoupled from the TQ. Conversion therapy for homosexuals is a dreadful practice which is often traumatising for the people subjected to it whereas "conversion therapy" for trans children in particular is a way of helping them make sure that trans is the right route for them or if they just need help with their mental health in some way. I would be willing to put money on the fact that each of these MPs could not describe what they think conversion therapy for trans people is and why it is bad. That picture should be sent to every one of them. The needs of LGB anf TQ people are not the same!
Absolutely. The addition of the 't' to the LGB was what started this mess. They have nothing in common, trans isn't a sexuality for a start and they haven't been victimised and systemically oppressed as a class simply because trans was always rightly seen as an individual mental health concern, not a basis for organising as a group.
The T not only have nothing in common with, but are actually antithetical to, LGB. Because the former is based on gender. Which: 1.] the T insist must override biological sex; and 2.] is where the stigmatization of same-sex attraction originates. The second perpetuates homophobia and biphobia; the first would erase LGB people altogether (since these identities are founded on sexual orientation, and, without biological sex, that can no longer exist). Both are pure poison to LGB people. And, therefore... so is the T.
Anyone who is confused or experiencing psychological trauma regarding their gender identity and their body should unquestionably be offered ethical therapy. It isn't conversion therapy, it's a process of exploring the person's history, their internal identity and how they're feeling. As well as their relationships and how they relate to themselves and others. It's the therapeutic approach, and it's the same in every context.
The purpose and aim of therapy is to improve the person's mental health, help them to feel better about themselves and live a more contented life. For some people, this might mean them starting treatment to alleviate the symptoms of gender dysphoria, whilst others will find that their problems are unrelated to their gender identity. Maybe they were unconsciously trying to annihilate something painful or puzzling within themself or their past, etc. Like so many, they are seeking a form of transformation, and this makes some people particularly receptive to a process as transformative as gender reassignment.
I think a lot of girls/young women would happily give up periods n call emselves non binary or 'really a boy' if the technology were really 'reversible', for a start. I know I would have when I faced the horror of this happening every month, cramps, embarrassing unexpected bleeds that showed through clothes, boys at school running round pinging girls newly bought bra straps, middle aged leery woolf whistles or grabs or worse, porn n all. I remember looking at every adult woman I passed on the street and thinking 'poor condemned females' .....
If we had a functioning media they could ask Owen Jones if he considers the person in the photo to be a man. And would he consider dating a "man" like that? Or ask Laurie Penny if she thinks a girl with a mutilated leg and a roll of dough sticking out of her boxer shorts is progress. But they know they won't be held to account because our media is too scared to ask, so they can just carry on repeating "Be Kind" on twitter.
When that "conversion therapy" is talking a girl out of carving her leg up to look like she survived being run over by a train and having a skin tube sewn onto her body, that resembles a pastry roll, MAYBE it's a good thing. Maybe it's not conversion. Maybe they need even stronger psychiatric help.
These are the images and videos that need to be sent to MPs NOW. These trans surgeries are barbaric.
67% chance it’s not going to take. I can’t believe we are living in a time where removing breasts and creating a penis out of leg skin, destroying fertility and removing the ability to orgasm is considered progress. I no longer recognize those who promote this. This is not liberal. It’s appalling harm and should be banned.
its why i get so angry at the innocent phrases they use to describe double masectomies and the multi op genital carving up as 'top' and 'bottom' surgery. It makes it sounds like surgical carving up of your genitals and trying to fashion a smilie of the oppositve sex's is as easy as plug and play on your computer. No wonder so many trans people are disapointed at their results and thats even when the Op goes right.
And isn't this neopenis surgery THREE separate and dangerous operations? So much can and does go wrong.
and even then it doesn't work.
No, it resulted in a payday.
Why I cannot vote Labour.
Another reason why I am disenfranchised as I live in Scotland!
Not a mental health issue right?
That photo. Words fail me.
Labour continues to alienate itself from the electorate with its slavish devotion to identity politics. Virtue signalling to the metropolitan elite and the idiots on Twitter is more important than the lives that will be ruined by a ban on talking therapy regarding gender. I feel ashamed to have voted for Corbyn - he is a naive fool living in cloud cuckoo land.
The interesting thing for me about watching that debate yesterday was that I felt that many, if not the majority, of those speaking in favour of a ban on 'conversion' seemed to genuinely believe what they were promoting. So this suggests a couple of possibilities: The best is that they are naive but misinformed. The worst is that they are downright stupid and lazy and therefore misinformed, not having thoroughly looked into what trans generally means (no, it is not synonymous with being gay, at all) and also not having looked into what trans 'conversion therapy' would actually entail: an opportunity for a very young person (usually) to explore with a therapist if they really understand the implications of life changing, long term medical procedures. If these MPs who spoke up yesterday are all indeed stupid and lazy, and these are the people we pay to make laws on our behalf, then democracy is in very, very bad shape.
Democracy is in bad shape if it ever existed at all. We have no leaders, just people behind the scenes pulling the strings of their puppets. And in our complex and overwhelmingly alienated societies, we actually need leaders with moral courage.
I suspect that Corbyn has been misled about trans and thinks he's opposing a potential human rights violation. But he's the former leader of the opposition and there's no excuse for being so misinformed. He is indeed the crank that so many of his critics said he was six or seven years ago!
This is why one should keep one's mouth shut about subjects one knows nothing about.
Ambitious surgeons need a challenge that befits their talents and sense of superiority. What better challenge than to convert a man into a woman and vice versa. They are modern day Dr. Frankensteins. I really didn't need to see this picture to work it out.
I would love to have that pic shoved in everyone of these virtue snivelling twats faces
Maybe this should be sent to every mp with explanation.
Have you seen this? @tullipR , a detransitioner: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1536422533230206976.html?fbclid=IwAR3dQEdYleI3rjZh6HRqXTqF9PYFYvbacqba3Nw2GbbO3HtSHImRqywouBs
Beyond tragic.
They don't realise that going down the affirmation, blockers, surgery route IS conversion therapy of the worst kind. It's gay conversion therapy in many instances and utterly barbaric. What I always get stuck on is the lack of any oppositional left wing analysis of this phenomenon. It's as though they've all accepted that the left position is one of support for the trans cabal. I've always been on the Left and fail to see how encouraging choice-based surgery, and the notion that you can 'pick' your identity, is anything but an acquiescence to the most extreme neoliberal, market economy, free for all, right wing Idealism. It's no accident that many older trans people are libertarian. Of course many socialist feminists are pointing out the material basis of women's oppression, and how biology is not innate destiny but is the foundation of socially sanctioned exploitation of women's reproductive capacity, and it is this experience of being female in a patriarchal society that forms our identity whether we like it or not; social being conditions consciousness and all that. Left wing feminism worked through all these arguments years ago. It's so disappointing to realise that we have forgotten them.
I have read criticism of trans ideology by leftist writers and commenters on leftist websites. Yes, so-called progressives have totally signed onto transgenderism, but I have also seen a slow awakening on the part of genuine leftists that this is a very dangerous, very ugly ideology. One editor of a leftist website told me he thinks transgenderism is a psychological operation on the part of the government. And I can hear all those squeaky voices crying, "Conspiracy theorist! Conspiracy theorist!" but that's why I continually ask people to think about why our governments are supporting this utterly monstrous bullshit.
When you say "our governments", I guess you mean USA and Canada? Here in the UK, it's the governing Tory party that has started to talk sense about gender; all the opposition parties (apart from a few brave individuals) seem totally captured by the gender cult.
I think an important question to ask is "Cui bono?" - who stands to benefit from this? and the obvious answer is Big Pharma!
Yes, yes, yes, big pharma. Yes, yes, yes, misogyny. However, I don't think these are sufficient explanation for ALL our governments', including yours, support for transgenderism. The Tories are cashing in on Labour's utter capture, but they could be quashing the NHS's subservience to this ideology, couldn't they? And this website has certainly covered Tory support for this crap.
While I certainly wouldn't be surprised if China, Russia, and other hostile foreign powers were using this destructive ideology against us... I don't think that they invented it. We-- the western world-- carried the seeds of "trans" within us: the various cultural elements which eventually came together to produce this noxious hybrid weed. Same as happened with the U.S. opioid epidemic, you know? That, too, was the product of multiple factors-- and identifiable "bad guys" (Purdue Pharma, etc.) were only some of them.
This reminds me of something that American horror author Stephen King once said about his favorite fiction genre. Horror stories are usually about what he terms "outside evil"-- the "thing from another world", etc. So "we"-- the Good Guys-- simply have to defeat it and get things back to normal. Because all was well before that goddamn psycho-killer/bloodthirsty shark/rampaging monster showed up. What makes this the most common narrative is its essential conservatism: Us vs Them. Very reassuring. That's a crowd-pleaser. Much less common is the story of "inside evil"-- where, to paraphrase political cartoonist Walt Kelly's Pogo Possum, "we have met the enemy and he is us."
I think that's the kind of horror movie we're now living in. One where the monster is of our own making. Every culture has its dark side... and sometimes, terrible fuckin' shit crawls outta there. I've been trying to trace the lineage of this one-- what spawned it. Anyone have any ideas?
@Free - see my comment to Susan - I certainly do not blame the people of undemocratic countries for their despot rulers nor fail to despair about our present government (altho at last they are pushing back a bit) and unfortunately all the opposition. I do agree with you about Big Pharma .... always follow the money; and I'm not meaning to attack socialists per se .... just friggin harmful woke exploiters - all of em!
Get rid of woke and Labour might have my vote back - I'm for a mixed economy fyi. So I'm left on some things, right on others and not generally extreme other than not believing that the best thing for dysmorphia is to harm your healthy body etc etc. So please see my comment to @Susan, then tell me what you think?
Nah I'm not 'blaming everything on foreigners' - not my intention AT ALL. I'm trying to understand how this stuff has been so successful without anyone voting for it. And yes there are such things as agent provocateurs aka shit stirrer spies .... not that we dont do the same to other countries ... anyhoo the comment is there and really would value your opinion after you've read it. Thanks.
After having watched the interview (you tube) of Yuri Bezmenov, an ex member of the KGB conducted in 1984, I can well believe that a psychological warfare has been conducted against Americans by Russia. He lays it out clear. Corrupt morals, create apathy and hopelessness to destroy from within. He said this had been a long term strategy used since middle of 20th century.
yup .... easier to destroy a democracy and no doubt there is counter spying but we're not very good at it [anyone remember the fake rock tape recorder?]
I find blaming China and Russia for OUR OWN STUPIDITY, our own lack of engagement, our own lack of awareness of the world around us, to be beneath contempt.
Well, I am not referring to the people of those countries. It's not as simple as that, I do agree @Susan - as @Free says, it needs inside 'evil' too - which alongside gullibility is tragically always present as part of the effin awful human condition at times [which includes moi, so I'm happy to be challenged on this - but rather not be insulted].
Anyhoo see below for my thinking on this fwiw :
my rough understanding [see Helen Pluckrose and James sthing - sry forgot name] in 'Cynical Woke Theories' was Gramsci's idea about 70 years ago for cultural marxism to march through the institutions to replace 'capitalist hegemony' ...
... then French post mod philosophers and some from Germany .... with the failure of communism/outing of Stalin's crimes and liberal democratic populations losing their trad religions ...
So this idea of changing perception on the basis of a utopian ideology [aka new woke religion] was easy for liberals looking for meaning - especially far left white Westerners too clever to think realistically about reality? Plus you can make big bucks on the woke grift ocourse. So I can see that the enemies of democracies might chuck a few million the TRA way!
You're very fortunate to live in a democracy. The U.S. has never been a democracy; it was founded as a republic and it has spent its entire existence making sure that ordinary people are not heard from.
It can be sown by enemies to the West though and then leave the people to eat their own tails.
You know the West's primary enemy? Itself! Even Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times recognized this in a column. The first thing Westerners need to stop doing is to stop thinking they are the center of the universe. Then next they need to attempt to transcend their culture and propaganda and look at themselves critically and as objectively as possible. I am so sick of Western superiority, Western self-righteousness, Western self-congratulation. If you could stop for one second and understand what the "West" did to Russia and China -- invasion, destruction, constant subversion -- you might be a bit more thoughtful.
https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/a-piece-of-the-pie?s=r
Every culture has its men...
Yebbut men includes Mr Menno and ocourse Glinner cos it's his substack obvs. Seems just as the West was making good progress on dismantling patriarcnhal institutions and attitudes, equality of women n acceptance of lesbians n gays, this friggin stuff comes to jam up the works! EDIT - not just jam up but make new harms and unresolved safeguarding n free speech issues even worse.
Yeah, that's why I specified "gender-men", you know? Meaning men as shaped by gender. Which warps and twists all too many of them. So they end up entitled, believing themselves superior to women, often creepy, even scary. But plenty of men reject gender telling them to be misogynistic assholes. That's the difference between men as they inherently are-- simply adult male people-- and men as... male-gender-role-creatures. If we could just drive a stake through the rotten heart of gender once and for all, the latter would cease to afflict us (and good riddance!), and the former would define the male sex. Which is how it should be.
Yeah... and, more specifically, its "gender-men": those demonstrating the true nature of male privilege. Which ultimately always ends up looking like... this :(
Also contributing to this toxic T stew (imo):
* most people (mis)understanding "trans" as "the new gay", and therefore assuming that to question or oppose it must mean you're some Westboro Baptist Church-style, fire-breathing homophobe
* due to the above, most people assuming that "transwoman" = "gay man", and thus that there's no danger of predatory behavior from them in women's restrooms/locker rooms
* the recent rise in autism rates (thanks to an economic system where women, in particular, must delay childbearing till middle age)
* a U.S. healthcare system that's fee-for-service (thus encouraging procedures for their own sake) and based on private insurance (which would rather pay for medications & operations than talk therapy)
* the intensive "gendering" of products marketed to children over the last 20 years, so that EVERYTHING-- even stuff previously treated as unisex-- is either "for girls" or "for boys", thus steeping kids in sex-stereotyping from day one (though the original purpose was to make parents buy two separate toys for their son and daughter, instead of having the children share one)
* the relatively sudden mainstream acceptance of LGB, which I suspect even many liberal/progressive types weren't entirely prepared for, or comfortable with... but naturally can't acknowledge, even to themselves (and if they can just "trans away the gay" in their kids, don't need to! Why, it makes you even MORE gay-friendly! Somehow!)
* the apparently-pervasive subconscious belief that gay men are "really" women, and lesbians are "really" men (I'd never have imagined this would still be around in the goddamn 21st century, and yet... look how readily people accept the idea that same-sex attraction means you must be the opposite sex)
* the assumption that a man identifying AS a woman must mean that he also identifies WITH women
* the assumption that "trans" = rejection of gender roles (when it actually serves to reinforce them)
And there's plenty more where those came from! But what do you guys think of my list so far?
Good points however I understood that children born with autism has ties with the father’s advancing age not the mother’s.
Good and horrible list! Thx. Just when I thought Barbie dolls were gonna disappear all this intellectual bs cult gets 'scientific' status - can't grrrrrr enuf.
Someone called it 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'
Might've been me! I've often referred to the "TQ+" as "Pod People", given their drive to not only steal the identities of, but actually REPLACE, women and LGB people.
Maybe that makes Graham and the rest of us here a collective Kevin McCarthy, desperately shouting, "You're next!" at the imperiled yet oblivious public...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRVfGMjdGh8
Mmm well at least the 'trans women' cant actually reproduce [EDIT as in get pregnant/give birth] as current technology stands ... altho saw a Genspect vid with a 'trans man' saying no-one even told her of the dangers or that she could still get preggers on T ffs. Or ocourse that she risked loss of sexual feelings if she got a plastic todger surgery. Thx for the link.
Reading Joanna Williams 'How Woke Won' ... unfortunate title but the subtitle is 'The Elitist Movement That Threatens Democracy, Tolerance and Reason'. You read it? Would recommend.
So far I agree with her .... her stance seems to try to show how brilliant n it all is for global corporations to divide and conquer anyone who wants actual social justice for exploited ppl whilst selling more product and attracting more investment. No spies mentioned as yet!
Yes but that doesn't make sense when we have the NHS - tho I know they're trying to sell it off, so maybe it is just the gender clinics being ready and waiting to take people off the NHS waiting lists. I'm sure Big Pharma is going to price hike all cross sex hormones in a few years too. But it's why all the opposition parties are towing this line simultaneously. I'm starting to think Susan's editor friend is on the right track and starting to think they are all being funded by someone, or several orgs, and it's a condition of their funding that they tout this line. Perhaps Arcus Foundation or WEF? Does seem a concerted global attack and very top down. Sinister sh*t.
I think it has been happily fomented by Russia and China, however it started, they must be laughing at how we are pulling our society apart. Ditto CRT.
Yes I have often thought that .... so many similarities with cultural revolutions .... exploiting children, adolescents, unquestioning activist mobs ....spies n all? I'm not a great fan of conspiracy theories but this one seems worth considering :
Remember how one of the gay Labour shadow cabinet members had been employing a Chinese spy? [Barry Gardiner]. Corbyn is already credulous [remember how he denied Russia could possibly have anything to do with the Skrypal poisoning and was happy to appear on Russian Tv?].
And isn't TikTok owed by the Chinese but they won't have it available in PR China? Not to mention all that money sloshing around stolen by the Russian Oligarchs .... And Chinese money towards universities incl science n medicine, CPS, civil service ..... etc etc Tories too .... capitulation by corporations via social media propaganda and 'educated HR/PR' ?? hence lack of constructive action to stop the nonsense even [or especially] spreading to the criminal justice system/police, schools, women's refuges, BBC, churches and NHS? [etc!]
Of course you could add Nicola Sturgeon taking tea with the Ayatollahs ... seems she'll take money wherever she can get it 'for the cause' [of her coronation?].
So for me political and institutional corruption is the only explanation as to why/how rational human beings have been brainwashed to deny biological reality, obvious and extreme dangers and harms - and how any other gender-contrary views or treatment of the dysmorphia it promotes are condemned as 'hate speech' and 'conversion therapy'.
Question is - how do we stop it all, as stop it all we must.
What is the purpose of such butchery? That appendage will never function as a real penis so what's the point?
I suspect the person being butchered is not fully informed of that.
A society which idolises external sexualised appearance and freedom to choose 'identities' out of an identity flavoured chocolate box - our desires are paramount rather than valuing individual human worth; and connection on basis of respect including self respect?
Well done. Easiest thing in the world to go on TikTok and witter on about "finding your own true self" - not so easy to explain that butchery, let alone sell it as a fashionable lifestyle choice. The more kids see these grotesque pictures, the more reality stands a chance of getting through to them instead of the 'sparkly unicorn' bullshit of gender ideology.
Hopefully. I could see it going the other way, though, along the lines of the next step in extreme body modification - pictures of self-harm double-mastectomies seem to get a depressing number of likes.
What a bunch of tossers. Ever one of them should be ashamed of their anti-women stance, but particularly the women for being taken in by a thoroughly misogynistic ideology. If women are not some trans stereotype of what it is to be a women then they must be men? And if a man ‘feels’ he’s a woman he must be affirmed as such immediately? What utter drivel.
If talking to someone stops women from medicalisation that leads to menopause, infertility, osteoporosis and lack of sexual function, or surgery that leads to breast removal, then it must be allowed, no ifs or buts.
Sickening beyond belief. I don’t think I will ever forgive those who have endorsed the trans ideology. By this point they should KNOW what they are promoting. No excuses.
That photo should peak the world. But it won't. Not right this minute. But it will, eventually. When mass social and mainstream media are honest, and no longer 'gatekeep' the truth on behalf of the 'gender' cult.
I can pretty much guarantee that if you talked to any of those virtue signalling MPs they would not have a clue what they are talking about. They will have no idea that conversion therapy for trans people means making therapy and counselling illegal because no-one is doing anything else to convert them (apart form surgeons and that apparently is the affirmative "care" route). Once again it is why the LGB needs to be decoupled from the TQ. Conversion therapy for homosexuals is a dreadful practice which is often traumatising for the people subjected to it whereas "conversion therapy" for trans children in particular is a way of helping them make sure that trans is the right route for them or if they just need help with their mental health in some way. I would be willing to put money on the fact that each of these MPs could not describe what they think conversion therapy for trans people is and why it is bad. That picture should be sent to every one of them. The needs of LGB anf TQ people are not the same!
Absolutely. The addition of the 't' to the LGB was what started this mess. They have nothing in common, trans isn't a sexuality for a start and they haven't been victimised and systemically oppressed as a class simply because trans was always rightly seen as an individual mental health concern, not a basis for organising as a group.
The T not only have nothing in common with, but are actually antithetical to, LGB. Because the former is based on gender. Which: 1.] the T insist must override biological sex; and 2.] is where the stigmatization of same-sex attraction originates. The second perpetuates homophobia and biphobia; the first would erase LGB people altogether (since these identities are founded on sexual orientation, and, without biological sex, that can no longer exist). Both are pure poison to LGB people. And, therefore... so is the T.
Anyone who is confused or experiencing psychological trauma regarding their gender identity and their body should unquestionably be offered ethical therapy. It isn't conversion therapy, it's a process of exploring the person's history, their internal identity and how they're feeling. As well as their relationships and how they relate to themselves and others. It's the therapeutic approach, and it's the same in every context.
The purpose and aim of therapy is to improve the person's mental health, help them to feel better about themselves and live a more contented life. For some people, this might mean them starting treatment to alleviate the symptoms of gender dysphoria, whilst others will find that their problems are unrelated to their gender identity. Maybe they were unconsciously trying to annihilate something painful or puzzling within themself or their past, etc. Like so many, they are seeking a form of transformation, and this makes some people particularly receptive to a process as transformative as gender reassignment.
Absolutely!
I think a lot of girls/young women would happily give up periods n call emselves non binary or 'really a boy' if the technology were really 'reversible', for a start. I know I would have when I faced the horror of this happening every month, cramps, embarrassing unexpected bleeds that showed through clothes, boys at school running round pinging girls newly bought bra straps, middle aged leery woolf whistles or grabs or worse, porn n all. I remember looking at every adult woman I passed on the street and thinking 'poor condemned females' .....
If we had a functioning media they could ask Owen Jones if he considers the person in the photo to be a man. And would he consider dating a "man" like that? Or ask Laurie Penny if she thinks a girl with a mutilated leg and a roll of dough sticking out of her boxer shorts is progress. But they know they won't be held to account because our media is too scared to ask, so they can just carry on repeating "Be Kind" on twitter.
Can’t “like” this post - contents are too distressing. That poor, poor girl
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