Trans ideology appears to have given its devotees licence to be their worst selves. There are no boundaries to how badly trans ideology devotees can behave - this particular admonition of Simon Harrop is an exception. For some reason, they are given a free pass to not keep their nastiness in check. We’ve seen this before in history.
Our societies live on bullying, and this is just the latest weapon for bullying. I'm amused in a sick kind of way about our schools' zero tolerance for bullying when there are (fortunately few) teachers who bully kids, staff who are terrified of bullies and their parents and consequently enable them, and everyone goes home to watch professional bullying on television.
I know it sounds lenient and that's what I thought at first, but I've been advised by people who have cause to know that suspension is a severe punishment. In terms of seriousness, its just below being struck off. It will be on his record permanently.
To set it in context, Harold Shipman (yes, that one) was caught misusing prescription drugs not long after he started practicing medicine in 1976.
He was reported to the GMC and didn't receive a suspension. In fact, he wasn't even struck off the medical register until AFTER his conviction as a serial killer.
And that one case led to changes in how we regulate. Far-reaching and some say it was an overcorrection and led to clinicians' fear of making mistakes. I don't agree, but it changed the way local deaths all around Shipman's area were handled. All over the UK. All suspicious or unusual activity. Any patterns in specific treatments, medications, processes and deaths. You can still see this today, and in how that area reports activity as possibly worthy of investigation or prevention of future deaths (I think maybe more than other areas where there wasn't a history and such a radical reappraisal of how things were overlooked for so long and so many chances to stop him went missed by so many people and authorities). He found a gap and made the most of it. And so many were unable to see that or processes prevented them from being able to.
And he picked on the vulnerable and oh they were old, or alone, they'd die anyway was what he factored in. He was a law unto himself and there was very poor or no oversight. Then the patterns, the unusual patterns went ignored. Some warnings were ignored. No one was looking. Then those who were looking still didn't see. Oh it can't be that bad, he's a doctor after all. He's a nice man. There are lengthy legal processes, convictions, then the General Medical Chocolateteapot kick into swift action after the fact.
It's similar to how the police tend to go through processes to legally dismiss their employees in the correct way when they've been found to murder women. Oh we really shouldn't be employing them now should we. Let's check he's not officially still a serving officer as that doesn't look good. They are also starting (again) to look at culture within their ranks and it's a slow process.
This does affect trust in Institutions. And it's often the same issues and cultures of impunity. Often misogynistic. And literal or threatened VAWG.
This! He has been in the medical profession for a few years now. He got through his training. It's interesting at what point, and at what level of seniority some things come to light. The more senior the more the wrangling and processes and proof can take decades. Medicine involves teams and many partners and organisations and it's hard to work out sometimes where accountability or decision-making was sited. He usefully left this one aspect all online. Stonewalled. Again. Which is why it can't be in the NHS. It's not giving good advice.
Thank you. It shocks me that this is really such a small group of the same men. They have such a disproportionate effect and they are clearly co-ordinated in how they attack others. Joint enterprise? They use a playbook and use it again and again. I can't understand how they are escaping wider condemnation. And the police can't do anything.
Why they've given him a holiday off for a month during a winter crisis is an odd decision and hardly a punishment.
I hope I could feel more reassured. I know it's not the done thing at all (at all) and you would never want anything like this on your record. Others wouldn't want that either. Reading the detail is uncomfortable and the case was clear. It's taken a long time and a lot of work to get to this point. I hope the learning does echo wider. He is not alone. I'd like to know how the hell he thought he would get away with it and ignored the warnings that he wasn't being wise and perhaps should stop. I think I can guess why he ignored them. I hope he pays attention now. I wouldn't want to see any doctor who was this incautious and determined to ignore advice.
I know it's viewed as shameful, and I know how paralysed clinicians can be and how unfair it can be have that threat hanging over you. Regulation is a balance. Why he thought this was worth it is a mystery. It appears as if he was under the impression that he could. It is so typical of boundary pushing zealots.
Look at that photo of him! Would you post a photo of yourself looking like an insane person? He obviously has no self-awareness and he gets to stroke himself about his own self-righteousness.
He will do something that will get him struck off. Men like him do not think with their brains and so will get cocky again. He actually think he is in the right... We simply have to wait and watch and remind women who are targeted that they should report to the police and support them to do that. Hate crime goes further than what has been publicised as protected characteristics and those linked to protected characteristics are protected... Older women, younger women... Hate being age driven... So many people forget this.
I believe Harrop, and his ilk, are like the worst kind of religious zealots !
I’m sure his thinking right now is outrage, ‘how dare they ?’ and his hatred for the women he hounded and harassed… merely compound his delusions to continue doing his ‘trans gods work’.
I doubt if he can bear to remain contained, as he would see this suspension, so have we heard the last of this Ken Doll idiot ?
People who are narcissists never change. The signs of megalomania are plain for all to see in certain people. They are deluded, imagining themselves to be VIPs amongst their chosen section of society. They are able to charm the birds off the trees when they need to, whilst they silently do all in their power to destroy those who dare to stand up and speak out against them. They are seriously dangerous people, albeit, cowardly when confronted, more often than not.
Any male doctor who has made it quite clear that they hate women...and made it clear publicly too, should never be allowed to remain being a doctor. The same goes for any female doctors who hate men. Neither sex should ever be in the grip of medical people who hate their sex.
As to children, any medical person with an agenda, let's say, having a desire to 'trans' as many children/youngsters as possible, having publicly disclosed the sense of joy felt at being able to start children/youngsters on their trans journey, should be struck off immediately.
Malignant Narcissists never listen to anyone but themselves, never back down, and these days, with the internet, never stop tracking those they deem their 'enemies'.
Hopefully, far more people will be tracking certain malignant narcissists than the other way round.
The GMC should have insisted that Twitter ban him forever, but hey, that sick site worships the likes of those who do repellant things to others, whilst blocking The Good Men & Women True.
I sincerely hope that one day soon Twitter's 'Jack' is sued to the moon and back for what he's allowed on his site, for the way he's treated women posters on there....and that the fact he's now resigned as CEO of Twitter does not protect him at all.
It is a vile site, a mega light for many vile groups who are causing chaos in the world and doing their best to destroy the lives and peace of women and children.
HARD AGREE! From following the hearing tweets it’s clear he doesn’t believe he has done anything wrong and sees himself as a victim, but spouted various faux contrite statements as required, though he could barely manage that. Malignant narcissist is the one and I speak from experience!
On the plus side he will have to shut the fuck up and cannot now harass women without recourse which I imagine absolutely boils his blood. Hopefully the case will get lots of lovely coverage in the Times/Telegraph etc and send another message out that TRAs cannot bully, doxx and intimidate women as they once could.
He has 2 jobs, one a GP surgery with several different satellites and some in student areas. Maybe some students would be ok with his nonsense, but there must be lots of patients who aren't even if they do keep quiet about it. I read somewhere that, during Pride month, he decorated his surgery with rainbow flags and was very cross when made to take them down. He sounded of on Twitter about it for ages, apparently. His other job is a gender-affirming, gender-oriented one, which is no doubt his dream job.
He will fuck up again. He can’t help being who he is - something will set him off and next
time he won’t be able to claim he was joking. He has a pattern of behaviour and that won’t change with this “green light faux scare” - he’s arrogant enough to think he has a free pass and he will repeat his odious trope. Of course now he has form he will be on the radar as a troublemaker and that tag will never die - unlike his career that will have a shorter shelf life than he ever thought imaginable.
And that 'joking' defence being accepted by the panel. Don't they know that's the behaviour of abusers - being nasty and then claiming it was a 'joke', where's your sense of humour? Of course, nobody is allowed to 'joke' with them. They get furious.
He's a very angry man. I wonder whether some accusations of bullying in the workplace might come up from this in future. I may be wrong but there is a certain pattern of behaviour.
it's a very small level of justice. Also have you watched his YouTube video? That man should be no where near vulnerable or impressionable children at all!
yes, if I ever need NHS treatment and see that he's the one treating me I don't care how ill I am, I'll be out of the building like I've just seen Harold Shipman's ghost.
Of all the professions that have betrayed the public's trust during the gender ideology crazymaking circus the MDs are the worst. Supposedly the most highly educated, smartest people in our society - the people you must trust with your life and health - behaving like their collective IQ is that of room temperature (at Celsius). What an absolute disgrace (and try finding a medical institution that hasn't been linguistically a_ _fucked by the Gender-Assigned-at-Birth-Sorting-Hat-Wearing Wizard).
One of the victims of the state-sanctioned horror called "transgender medicine" is Scott Newgent. At age 41, Newgent spent $1 million on so-called "transgender healthcare body modifications" straight out of the Mengele Medical Manual: "During the process of medical transition, I had seven surgeries, a massive pulmonary embolism, a stress-induced heart attack, sepsis, 17-month recurring infections due to a [failed] phalloplasty requiring arm reconstructive surgery, multiple rounds of antibiotics, including weeks of IV antibiotics, and resulting in a permanently handicapped arm." https://www.trevoices.org/post/gender-dysphoric-patients-suffer-at-the-hands-of-unethical-doctor-trans-ideology-is-crumbing
Scott Newgent’s story is heartbreaking. Transenstein’s Monster. It’s unbelievable that people are being sold this lie, being maimed, disfigured, made infertile, incontinent, sick with complications and becoming lifelong patients from their teens on. The scale this is happening in the US is horrifying. And all to make money for the likes of Teetus Deletus and other psychopaths who don’t give a fuck what happens to their patients.
This *apparently* lenient sanction prevents him presenting himself as a martyr to the cause, which he would love.
It will also hang over him for the rest of his professional life. He puts one step wrong and the GMC will throw the book at him.
Harrop works as a GP and there is a completely separate regulatory system that decides whether or not a Dr is authorised to work in England. There are similar systems in the other parts of the UK. For example, Helen Webberley was struck off the "GP Performers List" for Wales before she was suspended by the GMC. Harrop should be concerned that he is not barred from working as a GP even if he is permitted to work as a Doctor.
The Medical Defence Union (his professional insurer) will have paid for his costs at the tribunal. His premiums will be sky high after this. If he messes up repeatedly and goes to an MPTS tribunal he could end up being refused insurance to practice.
His career is in tatters. He has been found to have brought the medical profession into disrepute.
The practice he works for is probably praying that he does mess up again soon and gets suspended for longer.
My guess is that they will be keeping a very close eye on his performance as well as his conduct and will be glad of any pretext to fire him. "5 minutes late AGAIN, Adrian!? We are doing a case note audit this afternoon so I hope that you have been keeping all your patient records up to date." And so on.
I am also wondering, if he does mess up and get a longer suspension, whether they might have grounds to "let him go" for failure to fulfil his contract?
The GP practice will have its own internal disciplinary process and are likely to invoke it after one of their staff has been suspended for a month - causing adverse impact on the rest of the staff, and on the patients.
Though if I was a patient there, I would be point blank refusing to see him. Especially being a woman - I would not be able to trust him.
Trans ideology appears to have given its devotees licence to be their worst selves. There are no boundaries to how badly trans ideology devotees can behave - this particular admonition of Simon Harrop is an exception. For some reason, they are given a free pass to not keep their nastiness in check. We’ve seen this before in history.
Our societies live on bullying, and this is just the latest weapon for bullying. I'm amused in a sick kind of way about our schools' zero tolerance for bullying when there are (fortunately few) teachers who bully kids, staff who are terrified of bullies and their parents and consequently enable them, and everyone goes home to watch professional bullying on television.
I know it sounds lenient and that's what I thought at first, but I've been advised by people who have cause to know that suspension is a severe punishment. In terms of seriousness, its just below being struck off. It will be on his record permanently.
To set it in context, Harold Shipman (yes, that one) was caught misusing prescription drugs not long after he started practicing medicine in 1976.
He was reported to the GMC and didn't receive a suspension. In fact, he wasn't even struck off the medical register until AFTER his conviction as a serial killer.
And that one case led to changes in how we regulate. Far-reaching and some say it was an overcorrection and led to clinicians' fear of making mistakes. I don't agree, but it changed the way local deaths all around Shipman's area were handled. All over the UK. All suspicious or unusual activity. Any patterns in specific treatments, medications, processes and deaths. You can still see this today, and in how that area reports activity as possibly worthy of investigation or prevention of future deaths (I think maybe more than other areas where there wasn't a history and such a radical reappraisal of how things were overlooked for so long and so many chances to stop him went missed by so many people and authorities). He found a gap and made the most of it. And so many were unable to see that or processes prevented them from being able to.
And he picked on the vulnerable and oh they were old, or alone, they'd die anyway was what he factored in. He was a law unto himself and there was very poor or no oversight. Then the patterns, the unusual patterns went ignored. Some warnings were ignored. No one was looking. Then those who were looking still didn't see. Oh it can't be that bad, he's a doctor after all. He's a nice man. There are lengthy legal processes, convictions, then the General Medical Chocolateteapot kick into swift action after the fact.
It's similar to how the police tend to go through processes to legally dismiss their employees in the correct way when they've been found to murder women. Oh we really shouldn't be employing them now should we. Let's check he's not officially still a serving officer as that doesn't look good. They are also starting (again) to look at culture within their ranks and it's a slow process.
This does affect trust in Institutions. And it's often the same issues and cultures of impunity. Often misogynistic. And literal or threatened VAWG.
Yes, it really does and I have no doubt he is, deeply misogynistic. That isn't going to go away, he will just learn to hide it better.
This! He has been in the medical profession for a few years now. He got through his training. It's interesting at what point, and at what level of seniority some things come to light. The more senior the more the wrangling and processes and proof can take decades. Medicine involves teams and many partners and organisations and it's hard to work out sometimes where accountability or decision-making was sited. He usefully left this one aspect all online. Stonewalled. Again. Which is why it can't be in the NHS. It's not giving good advice.
but because of the shortage of docs in the UK he will still be able to get locum work...
Thank you. It shocks me that this is really such a small group of the same men. They have such a disproportionate effect and they are clearly co-ordinated in how they attack others. Joint enterprise? They use a playbook and use it again and again. I can't understand how they are escaping wider condemnation. And the police can't do anything.
Why they've given him a holiday off for a month during a winter crisis is an odd decision and hardly a punishment.
I know, it does seem very lenient but it's actually taken more seriously than you might think.
I hope I could feel more reassured. I know it's not the done thing at all (at all) and you would never want anything like this on your record. Others wouldn't want that either. Reading the detail is uncomfortable and the case was clear. It's taken a long time and a lot of work to get to this point. I hope the learning does echo wider. He is not alone. I'd like to know how the hell he thought he would get away with it and ignored the warnings that he wasn't being wise and perhaps should stop. I think I can guess why he ignored them. I hope he pays attention now. I wouldn't want to see any doctor who was this incautious and determined to ignore advice.
I know it's viewed as shameful, and I know how paralysed clinicians can be and how unfair it can be have that threat hanging over you. Regulation is a balance. Why he thought this was worth it is a mystery. It appears as if he was under the impression that he could. It is so typical of boundary pushing zealots.
Look at that photo of him! Would you post a photo of yourself looking like an insane person? He obviously has no self-awareness and he gets to stroke himself about his own self-righteousness.
I agree completely and I wouldn't want to be treated by him either. What he's done is absolutely despicable.
He will be unpaid during his suspension at least.
He will do something that will get him struck off. Men like him do not think with their brains and so will get cocky again. He actually think he is in the right... We simply have to wait and watch and remind women who are targeted that they should report to the police and support them to do that. Hate crime goes further than what has been publicised as protected characteristics and those linked to protected characteristics are protected... Older women, younger women... Hate being age driven... So many people forget this.
He was thinking with his little brain in his little head.
I think you're right.
Such a revolting person, Harrop
I believe Harrop, and his ilk, are like the worst kind of religious zealots !
I’m sure his thinking right now is outrage, ‘how dare they ?’ and his hatred for the women he hounded and harassed… merely compound his delusions to continue doing his ‘trans gods work’.
I doubt if he can bear to remain contained, as he would see this suspension, so have we heard the last of this Ken Doll idiot ?
Absolutely not !
People who are narcissists never change. The signs of megalomania are plain for all to see in certain people. They are deluded, imagining themselves to be VIPs amongst their chosen section of society. They are able to charm the birds off the trees when they need to, whilst they silently do all in their power to destroy those who dare to stand up and speak out against them. They are seriously dangerous people, albeit, cowardly when confronted, more often than not.
Any male doctor who has made it quite clear that they hate women...and made it clear publicly too, should never be allowed to remain being a doctor. The same goes for any female doctors who hate men. Neither sex should ever be in the grip of medical people who hate their sex.
As to children, any medical person with an agenda, let's say, having a desire to 'trans' as many children/youngsters as possible, having publicly disclosed the sense of joy felt at being able to start children/youngsters on their trans journey, should be struck off immediately.
Malignant Narcissists never listen to anyone but themselves, never back down, and these days, with the internet, never stop tracking those they deem their 'enemies'.
Hopefully, far more people will be tracking certain malignant narcissists than the other way round.
The GMC should have insisted that Twitter ban him forever, but hey, that sick site worships the likes of those who do repellant things to others, whilst blocking The Good Men & Women True.
I sincerely hope that one day soon Twitter's 'Jack' is sued to the moon and back for what he's allowed on his site, for the way he's treated women posters on there....and that the fact he's now resigned as CEO of Twitter does not protect him at all.
It is a vile site, a mega light for many vile groups who are causing chaos in the world and doing their best to destroy the lives and peace of women and children.
HARD AGREE! From following the hearing tweets it’s clear he doesn’t believe he has done anything wrong and sees himself as a victim, but spouted various faux contrite statements as required, though he could barely manage that. Malignant narcissist is the one and I speak from experience!
On the plus side he will have to shut the fuck up and cannot now harass women without recourse which I imagine absolutely boils his blood. Hopefully the case will get lots of lovely coverage in the Times/Telegraph etc and send another message out that TRAs cannot bully, doxx and intimidate women as they once could.
The story has been covered in the Mail online and they haven't been kind. His GP surgery address too.
Let's face it Docs found guilty of sexual misconduct are still working so the only outcome was this. Let's hope he fucks up sometime soon.
And if so, the way he fucks up doesn't damage his patients and those in his care.
Exactly!
The eyes always tell it all
Glazed and fanatical !
And no sense of judgment that perhaps one might not want to look like that online.
Are his patients just regular members of the public, or are they Munchausen Mommas ?
He has 2 jobs, one a GP surgery with several different satellites and some in student areas. Maybe some students would be ok with his nonsense, but there must be lots of patients who aren't even if they do keep quiet about it. I read somewhere that, during Pride month, he decorated his surgery with rainbow flags and was very cross when made to take them down. He sounded of on Twitter about it for ages, apparently. His other job is a gender-affirming, gender-oriented one, which is no doubt his dream job.
I suspect some of his patients will be Daily Mail readers. I used to despair at that newspaper's popularity, now not so much.
Good question!
He will fuck up again. He can’t help being who he is - something will set him off and next
time he won’t be able to claim he was joking. He has a pattern of behaviour and that won’t change with this “green light faux scare” - he’s arrogant enough to think he has a free pass and he will repeat his odious trope. Of course now he has form he will be on the radar as a troublemaker and that tag will never die - unlike his career that will have a shorter shelf life than he ever thought imaginable.
And that 'joking' defence being accepted by the panel. Don't they know that's the behaviour of abusers - being nasty and then claiming it was a 'joke', where's your sense of humour? Of course, nobody is allowed to 'joke' with them. They get furious.
He's a very angry man. I wonder whether some accusations of bullying in the workplace might come up from this in future. I may be wrong but there is a certain pattern of behaviour.
Personally, I think he’s dangerous.
The perfect narcissist!
Well... it's a start
it's a very small level of justice. Also have you watched his YouTube video? That man should be no where near vulnerable or impressionable children at all!
or adults …
yes, if I ever need NHS treatment and see that he's the one treating me I don't care how ill I am, I'll be out of the building like I've just seen Harold Shipman's ghost.
The treatment of Witness E, including by this very tribunal, is a fucking disgrace.
That's clearly religious hatred as well and went to town with it. He really did cover himself in glory. What a nasty man.
Hayden decrying the wasting of court time in relation to this case was another moment to behold.
Of all the professions that have betrayed the public's trust during the gender ideology crazymaking circus the MDs are the worst. Supposedly the most highly educated, smartest people in our society - the people you must trust with your life and health - behaving like their collective IQ is that of room temperature (at Celsius). What an absolute disgrace (and try finding a medical institution that hasn't been linguistically a_ _fucked by the Gender-Assigned-at-Birth-Sorting-Hat-Wearing Wizard).
One of the victims of the state-sanctioned horror called "transgender medicine" is Scott Newgent. At age 41, Newgent spent $1 million on so-called "transgender healthcare body modifications" straight out of the Mengele Medical Manual: "During the process of medical transition, I had seven surgeries, a massive pulmonary embolism, a stress-induced heart attack, sepsis, 17-month recurring infections due to a [failed] phalloplasty requiring arm reconstructive surgery, multiple rounds of antibiotics, including weeks of IV antibiotics, and resulting in a permanently handicapped arm." https://www.trevoices.org/post/gender-dysphoric-patients-suffer-at-the-hands-of-unethical-doctor-trans-ideology-is-crumbing
Scott Newgent’s story is heartbreaking. Transenstein’s Monster. It’s unbelievable that people are being sold this lie, being maimed, disfigured, made infertile, incontinent, sick with complications and becoming lifelong patients from their teens on. The scale this is happening in the US is horrifying. And all to make money for the likes of Teetus Deletus and other psychopaths who don’t give a fuck what happens to their patients.
Sounds like he got the equivalent of a week in his room and no XBox.
No.
This *apparently* lenient sanction prevents him presenting himself as a martyr to the cause, which he would love.
It will also hang over him for the rest of his professional life. He puts one step wrong and the GMC will throw the book at him.
Harrop works as a GP and there is a completely separate regulatory system that decides whether or not a Dr is authorised to work in England. There are similar systems in the other parts of the UK. For example, Helen Webberley was struck off the "GP Performers List" for Wales before she was suspended by the GMC. Harrop should be concerned that he is not barred from working as a GP even if he is permitted to work as a Doctor.
The Medical Defence Union (his professional insurer) will have paid for his costs at the tribunal. His premiums will be sky high after this. If he messes up repeatedly and goes to an MPTS tribunal he could end up being refused insurance to practice.
His career is in tatters. He has been found to have brought the medical profession into disrepute.
The practice he works for is probably praying that he does mess up again soon and gets suspended for longer.
My guess is that they will be keeping a very close eye on his performance as well as his conduct and will be glad of any pretext to fire him. "5 minutes late AGAIN, Adrian!? We are doing a case note audit this afternoon so I hope that you have been keeping all your patient records up to date." And so on.
I am also wondering, if he does mess up and get a longer suspension, whether they might have grounds to "let him go" for failure to fulfil his contract?
And lo! Here's hoping this all too comes to pass! Let it be a warning to the others.
The GP practice will have its own internal disciplinary process and are likely to invoke it after one of their staff has been suspended for a month - causing adverse impact on the rest of the staff, and on the patients.
Though if I was a patient there, I would be point blank refusing to see him. Especially being a woman - I would not be able to trust him.
Hahahaha
Sounds about right