A friend wrote this and I do see her point. Just seen your white feather idea. Hmmm. Not sure this is the best idea to be honest. I think there are people who are fence-sitters and who need an elegant way to get off the fence and come to our side. In the light of recent developments, I feel we are now pushing at an open door. Many people want to come across to the side of protecting women and children.
Good call, Graham. We don't know what reasons may keep people from speaking out and, ultimately, the goal is to encourage debate and develop understanding. More people will come over to 'our side' if they feel they'll be welcomed rather than scorned.
What?!?? You declared something, then someone disagreed in a thoughtful way explaining their reasoning, and you bloody well listened and even changed your mind. What madness is this?????
Love that you sent this. Was just pondering the same. So many are happy about this - and some that didn't quite get that it could be a thing. You've been a leading torch bearer on this dark mountainous path:-)
Thank God. I think the focus needs to stay on bringing people along and ending division... appealing to people’s interests. Some people will be persuaded by the big pharma angle, others by the safe spaces angle. Also, a focus on people who are helping young people accept and celebrate their bodies and their femininity/ masculinity, like Rachel Rooney etc, so parents and kids have more role models.
I agree. Surely the important thing is to end the madness, not rub people's noses in it when they're willing to admit to having been mistaken. More joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, and all that.
Agree many very brave people were given white feathers for saying “No” and refusing to wage war or invade other poor people and countries, women and children in imperialist resource wars.
This also applies to people who were in the genderist fold and are starting to betray signs of #PeakTrans. Welcome them, don't pillory them for having been wrong, Most of us were at some stage.
I agree. I always rejected the exclusionary part of the TERF slur. Include the excluders lest be one is a rule I live by. Friends don’t let friends drink of the KoolAid. Mocking GIFs otoh...
I wonder about the true motives of the suffragettes in giving those men the feathers. Was it really patriotism or were they encouraging them to war in order to kill them all off. As with all the men dead the government would have no choice than to submit to the suffragettes demands.
There follows a mercifully brief and revisionist history of women’s suffrage...
It could be argued it was ultimately men that got women the vote by blowing themselves up in such huge numbers the women had to replace them in the work force. The women’s bombing campaign was irrelevant. It’s almost like the men said ‘You want the vote... Well you don’t want to blow things up like that... You want to blow things up like this.’
And they did. They blew loads of stuff and mainly themselves up and women got the vote.
Good call, Graham. We don't know what reasons may keep people from speaking out and, ultimately, the goal is to encourage debate and develop understanding. More people will come over to 'our side' if they feel they'll be welcomed rather than scorned.
Doh! I literally just ordered a ton of them. Luckily the postage will be minimal given that they don’t weigh much.
What?!?? You declared something, then someone disagreed in a thoughtful way explaining their reasoning, and you bloody well listened and even changed your mind. What madness is this?????
Love that you sent this. Was just pondering the same. So many are happy about this - and some that didn't quite get that it could be a thing. You've been a leading torch bearer on this dark mountainous path:-)
Thank God. I think the focus needs to stay on bringing people along and ending division... appealing to people’s interests. Some people will be persuaded by the big pharma angle, others by the safe spaces angle. Also, a focus on people who are helping young people accept and celebrate their bodies and their femininity/ masculinity, like Rachel Rooney etc, so parents and kids have more role models.
I agree. Surely the important thing is to end the madness, not rub people's noses in it when they're willing to admit to having been mistaken. More joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, and all that.
I agree. Golden bridge a good idea.
Agree many very brave people were given white feathers for saying “No” and refusing to wage war or invade other poor people and countries, women and children in imperialist resource wars.
I do love you Graham xxxx
I'll never forget Lance Corporal Jones (Dad's Army) being unjustly sent such a feather....
Allowing them to retreat with dignity and come across sounds like a good move I think.
I agree feathers are not a good idea idea. Sorry. Not the way to go.
This also applies to people who were in the genderist fold and are starting to betray signs of #PeakTrans. Welcome them, don't pillory them for having been wrong, Most of us were at some stage.
I agree. I always rejected the exclusionary part of the TERF slur. Include the excluders lest be one is a rule I live by. Friends don’t let friends drink of the KoolAid. Mocking GIFs otoh...
I wonder about the true motives of the suffragettes in giving those men the feathers. Was it really patriotism or were they encouraging them to war in order to kill them all off. As with all the men dead the government would have no choice than to submit to the suffragettes demands.
There follows a mercifully brief and revisionist history of women’s suffrage...
It could be argued it was ultimately men that got women the vote by blowing themselves up in such huge numbers the women had to replace them in the work force. The women’s bombing campaign was irrelevant. It’s almost like the men said ‘You want the vote... Well you don’t want to blow things up like that... You want to blow things up like this.’
And they did. They blew loads of stuff and mainly themselves up and women got the vote.
So really it was men that got women the vote.