My sons went no contact in 2021, after my younger son went to a trans therapist to "resolve his trauma" a month after I mentioned to both sons what their father put me through when he was lying about where he was and they were 4 and 7. This "therapist" was excellent, apparently, at helping my son memorize all the phrases, labeling me transphobic and disregarding the fact their father did traumatize them by pretending to be me, their mother.
I'm so sorry to hear this. I've read about your story before on this Substack and my heart goes out to you. I think of mothers like you a lot. I hope in the near future well this nonsense begins to break down and these lost children wake from their spells and go back to their parents. I wish you luck. Xx
Oh Ute, what to say. I can only zap virtual strength and love through the ether to where you are. You are doing the only thing you can which is to be there ready and waiting for when your sons come back to you. I hope they do.
This process is very similar to what coercive controllers do to alienate children in domestic abuse cases. Ive not seen or heard from my child for 6 years since the abuser stopped all contact between us. The more evidence I tried to give her to show her her dad was manipulating her to get at me, the more she protected him. She is in a state of what I would describe as externally engineered psychosis. She cannot engage with truth that doesn't support her fantasy that her father is the good parent and I am the bad one for bothering her with truth and evidence. It's like losing a child to hard drugs, you just watch more and more of them disappear until there is nothing left of the child you knew.
The professionals all refused to fact check his false allegations and then fed them back to my child, similar to how professionals support children to demonise protective parents who dont want their children to go down a medicalised route to altering their bodies to fit their belief system
Thank you Tracy, it has been a hugely destructive 6 years. I have no belief left in the various so called support systems for DA victims as they have actively framed her dad's manipulation and control as safeguarding her. They refused all evidence of 20 years of his abuse and reinforced his control of us wilfully.
So sorry for you Vicki. These organisations are not fit for purpose. It's just so heartbreaking. How a cult has been able to destroy lives at such a high rate. It's the worst cult the world has ever seen. I hope you find some peace somehow, however small.
I would say that these dreadful stories are heart-breaking but heart-breaking can't come close to describing how devastating the effects of trans ideology is on children and their parents. I am grief stricken for parents and families who are living with this horror every day.
My heart goes out to these parents who did everything right but couldn’t beat an insidious ideology that spread among us like a virus. We continue to remain vigilant because, like a virus, it’s not dead, merely dormant, if that.
Oh no, it's fiercely active. My trans musician friend (of years) is posting prolifically now where it used to be the occasional tune he was playing. Several of his friends are fawning over him and endlessly sending love and all are posting inflammatory sayings about transphowbs, whatever they are. Eye roll. My other trans friend unfriended me a couple of years ago when she became non-binary. Second eye roll
Out of my friend circle, I'd say most of the women who have kids have at least one (mostly daughters) who are non-binary, and in relationships with other NB or trans females. We are all in our late 50's or so and these 'kids' are well into their 30's at this point. I see them walk on eggshells to respect pronouns and not utter 'deadnames', etc. just to keep these daughters in their life. Given how badly I see these daughters treat their mothers and how *angry* they seem to be at everyone (after meeting a couple, I tend to find other places to be if they are visiting lest I say anything that could be interpreted badly), I sometimes wonder if I would see 'no-contact' or at least 'less contact' as not being such a bad thing. But then, I am lucky I've never had to make those decisions.
They are probably doing the right thing though. One thing that seems to be solid with cult deprogramming is to try to keep ties and a steady relationship so that the person has a place to which to return after the cult spell breaks, which sometimes they do. I do feel really bad for them though to be caught up in this horrorshow.
I'm not sure that indulging is the right thing to do. It's such a difficult situation but I guess keeping lines of communication open is a good thing. These people need help so badly. It's so sad.
I guess that's why it bothers me. They indulge a lot of stuff I don't think I would. But then,in the late 90's, my sister was an angry girl who was acting out way before her time, blue hair and bullring and all. I saw how she treated my mom when I went back to help out when my mom was dying. These kids remind me of the same entitled and bullying behavior. I would be saddened if my kid cut me off, but I refuse to set myself up for that kind of mental cruelty, especially after I am otherwise helpless.
It's the most despicable cult I've ever known. Never before have the parents been forced by the wider society to accept this new "normal" or else. It's truly evil and devastatingly effective at destroying children and families.
Read "Hannah Arendt" on "The banality of evil" as she attempts to describe why and how otherwise boring, mediocre people actively enable grossly immoral systems. Peter Tatchell springs to mind. They cloak themselves in "kindness" and "inclusivity" jargon yet destroy bodies, childhoods, families and societies. What's that phrase, "the great deceiver" - I'm an aethiest but if I was religious then I would know what Satan's smile looks like...
Oh my, these stories are tragic. I had a tear running down my cheek midway through and I am pretty much nails. The parents and what they are going through is utterly heartbreaking. To call this a cult is an understatement. What makes me most angry is the "be kind" enablers of this evil movement of mutilation. The mutilation is deliberate. It means they can never go back to being normal. Whilst with normal cults there is a way out, a way to reverse it all, with this cult there isn't. My heart goes out to every parent who has suffered. Thank you for sharing your stories. Please keep them coming. The woke captured world needs to hear them all. I hope you get your children back and/or try to find some kind of peace.
This is a profoundly sad read. It is a good example of how young people are so susceptible to ideologies. We have seen time and time again how they are a great target ; religious cults, violent football groups, street gangs and now the trans ideology.
My daughter has requested that my husband and I only speak to her about her siblings, and nothing else. She has convinced herself that she is a bisexual man. I feel caught between the anger and ridiculousness of the complete lack of logic of her belief and the sorrow of losing my daughter. My husband and I live in one of the most liberal cities in the US, so there is no one that we can share our feelings with without being thought of as bigots.
I'm so sorry for all these families. This movement ( cult ) is the cruellest that I've ever heard of and it's been deliberately planned. Destroying the family is just one part of the globalist agenda ,and surely there will be a special place in Hell for the proponents and their enablers ! These young people are their victims and I pray for them and their heartbroken parents. Thanks ,Graham.
The more I read and understand about ‘Trans’ the more I believe it serves as refuge for individuals who are both massively depressed and self-hating. They are miserable being who they are and becoming something else - anything else - is preferable and a worthy goal. In this scenario, it’s hardly surprising that parents and anyone from their past become expendable. The decision to ‘escape’ their real lives is incredibly violent, traumatic as well as selfish, but it is still a choice. Not so homosexuality, which is emphatically not a choice of any kind. This is one of the key reasons why ‘T’ has no home within the LGB rights struggle. Before the ‘refuge’ offered by transitioning is sought, or encouraged, everyone must be made aware of the other options they have and paths they can take. The Trans Movement is heavily recruitment-orientated. It is also good at marketing. Being ‘trans’ is presented as fashionable, radical and a bold alternative to convention. Inevitably it is largely driven by men, including a large percentage of autogynephliacs. This makes the complicity and advocacy of women in all this especially sad.
My sons went no contact in 2021, after my younger son went to a trans therapist to "resolve his trauma" a month after I mentioned to both sons what their father put me through when he was lying about where he was and they were 4 and 7. This "therapist" was excellent, apparently, at helping my son memorize all the phrases, labeling me transphobic and disregarding the fact their father did traumatize them by pretending to be me, their mother.
Therapists and rehabs etc are no help. The rehab facility my son went to for his alcoholism just gave him reasons to keep drinking.
I am sorry as well.
I thank you. I hope we will save confused teens from tragic mistakes.
I'm so sorry to hear this. I've read about your story before on this Substack and my heart goes out to you. I think of mothers like you a lot. I hope in the near future well this nonsense begins to break down and these lost children wake from their spells and go back to their parents. I wish you luck. Xx
I’m so sorry to read this Ute.
Thanks. My older son was born 2 days before Mothers Day 37 years ago. I have made my plans and will get through next week.
Oh Ute, what to say. I can only zap virtual strength and love through the ether to where you are. You are doing the only thing you can which is to be there ready and waiting for when your sons come back to you. I hope they do.
This process is very similar to what coercive controllers do to alienate children in domestic abuse cases. Ive not seen or heard from my child for 6 years since the abuser stopped all contact between us. The more evidence I tried to give her to show her her dad was manipulating her to get at me, the more she protected him. She is in a state of what I would describe as externally engineered psychosis. She cannot engage with truth that doesn't support her fantasy that her father is the good parent and I am the bad one for bothering her with truth and evidence. It's like losing a child to hard drugs, you just watch more and more of them disappear until there is nothing left of the child you knew.
Yeah some blokes do a very convincing 'innocent' and 'good parent'. My ex did that in court a few years ago.
The professionals all refused to fact check his false allegations and then fed them back to my child, similar to how professionals support children to demonise protective parents who dont want their children to go down a medicalised route to altering their bodies to fit their belief system
I'm so sorry to hear this Vicki. I wish you so much luck and hope that your daughter will see sense soon.
Thank you Tracy, it has been a hugely destructive 6 years. I have no belief left in the various so called support systems for DA victims as they have actively framed her dad's manipulation and control as safeguarding her. They refused all evidence of 20 years of his abuse and reinforced his control of us wilfully.
So sorry for you Vicki. These organisations are not fit for purpose. It's just so heartbreaking. How a cult has been able to destroy lives at such a high rate. It's the worst cult the world has ever seen. I hope you find some peace somehow, however small.
I would say that these dreadful stories are heart-breaking but heart-breaking can't come close to describing how devastating the effects of trans ideology is on children and their parents. I am grief stricken for parents and families who are living with this horror every day.
My heart goes out to these parents who did everything right but couldn’t beat an insidious ideology that spread among us like a virus. We continue to remain vigilant because, like a virus, it’s not dead, merely dormant, if that.
Oh no, it's fiercely active. My trans musician friend (of years) is posting prolifically now where it used to be the occasional tune he was playing. Several of his friends are fawning over him and endlessly sending love and all are posting inflammatory sayings about transphowbs, whatever they are. Eye roll. My other trans friend unfriended me a couple of years ago when she became non-binary. Second eye roll
Non-trans children do this, too. Utterly devastating.
Out of my friend circle, I'd say most of the women who have kids have at least one (mostly daughters) who are non-binary, and in relationships with other NB or trans females. We are all in our late 50's or so and these 'kids' are well into their 30's at this point. I see them walk on eggshells to respect pronouns and not utter 'deadnames', etc. just to keep these daughters in their life. Given how badly I see these daughters treat their mothers and how *angry* they seem to be at everyone (after meeting a couple, I tend to find other places to be if they are visiting lest I say anything that could be interpreted badly), I sometimes wonder if I would see 'no-contact' or at least 'less contact' as not being such a bad thing. But then, I am lucky I've never had to make those decisions.
They are probably doing the right thing though. One thing that seems to be solid with cult deprogramming is to try to keep ties and a steady relationship so that the person has a place to which to return after the cult spell breaks, which sometimes they do. I do feel really bad for them though to be caught up in this horrorshow.
I'm not sure that indulging is the right thing to do. It's such a difficult situation but I guess keeping lines of communication open is a good thing. These people need help so badly. It's so sad.
I guess that's why it bothers me. They indulge a lot of stuff I don't think I would. But then,in the late 90's, my sister was an angry girl who was acting out way before her time, blue hair and bullring and all. I saw how she treated my mom when I went back to help out when my mom was dying. These kids remind me of the same entitled and bullying behavior. I would be saddened if my kid cut me off, but I refuse to set myself up for that kind of mental cruelty, especially after I am otherwise helpless.
It's the most despicable cult I've ever known. Never before have the parents been forced by the wider society to accept this new "normal" or else. It's truly evil and devastatingly effective at destroying children and families.
Change a letter....
Cu/ts change people into cu/ts
V good. I intend to shamelessly plagiarise these words of wisdom!
That's nice!
Read "Hannah Arendt" on "The banality of evil" as she attempts to describe why and how otherwise boring, mediocre people actively enable grossly immoral systems. Peter Tatchell springs to mind. They cloak themselves in "kindness" and "inclusivity" jargon yet destroy bodies, childhoods, families and societies. What's that phrase, "the great deceiver" - I'm an aethiest but if I was religious then I would know what Satan's smile looks like...
Sadly couldn’t read all of this - it’s so upsetting and sad 😞
It can happen under lots of circumstances. Alcoholism does that to families.
Oh my, these stories are tragic. I had a tear running down my cheek midway through and I am pretty much nails. The parents and what they are going through is utterly heartbreaking. To call this a cult is an understatement. What makes me most angry is the "be kind" enablers of this evil movement of mutilation. The mutilation is deliberate. It means they can never go back to being normal. Whilst with normal cults there is a way out, a way to reverse it all, with this cult there isn't. My heart goes out to every parent who has suffered. Thank you for sharing your stories. Please keep them coming. The woke captured world needs to hear them all. I hope you get your children back and/or try to find some kind of peace.
This is a profoundly sad read. It is a good example of how young people are so susceptible to ideologies. We have seen time and time again how they are a great target ; religious cults, violent football groups, street gangs and now the trans ideology.
My daughter has requested that my husband and I only speak to her about her siblings, and nothing else. She has convinced herself that she is a bisexual man. I feel caught between the anger and ridiculousness of the complete lack of logic of her belief and the sorrow of losing my daughter. My husband and I live in one of the most liberal cities in the US, so there is no one that we can share our feelings with without being thought of as bigots.
I'm so sorry for all these families. This movement ( cult ) is the cruellest that I've ever heard of and it's been deliberately planned. Destroying the family is just one part of the globalist agenda ,and surely there will be a special place in Hell for the proponents and their enablers ! These young people are their victims and I pray for them and their heartbroken parents. Thanks ,Graham.
The more I read and understand about ‘Trans’ the more I believe it serves as refuge for individuals who are both massively depressed and self-hating. They are miserable being who they are and becoming something else - anything else - is preferable and a worthy goal. In this scenario, it’s hardly surprising that parents and anyone from their past become expendable. The decision to ‘escape’ their real lives is incredibly violent, traumatic as well as selfish, but it is still a choice. Not so homosexuality, which is emphatically not a choice of any kind. This is one of the key reasons why ‘T’ has no home within the LGB rights struggle. Before the ‘refuge’ offered by transitioning is sought, or encouraged, everyone must be made aware of the other options they have and paths they can take. The Trans Movement is heavily recruitment-orientated. It is also good at marketing. Being ‘trans’ is presented as fashionable, radical and a bold alternative to convention. Inevitably it is largely driven by men, including a large percentage of autogynephliacs. This makes the complicity and advocacy of women in all this especially sad.