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Ellen Highwater's avatar

Admire all these women so much. It's been a long hard slog on Terf Island - so much harder in Aus. Had a really depressing conversation/argument with a member of the family who lives in Sydney. It was triggered by a discussion about AI and the importance of good data. I said gender had corrupted most of the crime and health data and he got angry and said you're just obsessed. He agreed men shouldn't be in women's prisons, sports, changing rooms, toilets etc and acknowledged a blood test would reveal that 'transwomen' are men. When I pointed out this made him a terf too, he said we (husband and I) shouldn't talk about this stuff and we had been radicalised by far right bots and the Daily Mail and we were demonising a whole community of people. He became aggressive and hostile when we pointed to proof, MoJ stats, actual crimes, FOIs etc. When I asked what we were supposed to do he said just keep quiet and it will sort itself out - because that's obviously worked so well for women in the past. They are so scared of being on the wrong side. His wife and daughter (18) are very much on the 'be kind' side of the debate and they think he is unkind so I guess he feels he's getting it from both sides. I don't think they will see this for what it is until they are directly confronted in a changing room or similar.

Angela Linton's avatar

Anyone who insists that 'transwomen' aren't a threat to women clearly has never been to 'Let women speak event'. The level of abuse is horrific.

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