I hate sessions like this. So oppressive so even mild questioning is resisted, not just by the session leader but by the group as a whole. It gives the impression of a shared belief - but actually it’s about the awkwardness people feel when a ‘guest’ in this case the session leader is dealt with ‘impolitely’, in this case questioned at the most basic level. I’m usually that voice doing the questioning. Funny thing is you always get more than half coming up after thanking you for challenging and saying things like ‘I was going to ask that, but I’m just not as brave as you’. The scary thing is, for the 25-50% of the room, without someone outwardly questioning, they will walk out of the room thinking everyone agrees and thinks what I have just ‘learnt’ is right.
She just proved our point. She said there are all different shades of blue, but they’re all still blue. That’s the point isn’t it. There are all different types of men and women, but they’re all still men and women.
The confidence with which that imbecile delivers this infantile shit, is just stunning. Can you imagine being one of those 1000 families suing the Tavistock, and discovering this recording? Realising that this is the level of stupidity which ultimately informed the decision to mutilate your child?
I used to facilitate workshops in workplaces on equality issues among other things. I have never known a workshop like this be conducted successfully as a lecture, without promoting and faciliating active learning and discussion among participants. This is just a monologue. What are the speaker's own credentials as an educator and as some sort of self appointed expert? I am just cringing and horrified at the scant regard to providing any robust references for statements presented as fact and the closing down of any questions. I wonder who the employer was, and whether they are in receipt of public funding. I had seen the Powerpoint presentations before, but to hear - and to realise that this is being delivered everywhere to thousands of people is just terrifying.
When all this gender ideology comes crashing down (which it will), many of them will pretend they were never involved. But this is the digital era. Children were sterilized and mutilated. And we saw what they did and didn't do.
I listened until that patronising woman told the guy recording, was it actually Michael, to take a step down academically in that awful aggressive voice!! Arrgh!!
Also she said that when the child was born it's digestive system starts to work.. surely rubbish..it must work in the womb, how did grow and thrive!!
I wish someone would animate this recording and show the pictures of the Jelly Babies and the GenderBread person at the appropriate points behind the speaker. In the style of Wallace and Gromit.
Oh yes the dimmer switch analogy where she posed the question to the 'pupils' as if she was talking to a bunch of 5yr olds on their first day...I almost expected a 'George...don't do that 'in a Joyce Grenfell voice🤣😂🙄. I lost the plot pretty early on, I wonder how many of the class fell asleep!! Boring rubbish but so dangerous when presented without discussion and exchange of opinions! A lot of smug, self satisfied *insert rude word folks*🤭
Sorry for commenting on the wrong article!! But fyi - the paedo who was being defended by sussex police on twitter has also already been moved to a different wing of the women's prison he was put into, for preying on a woman in there.
It was the splendid Michael Conroy of Men at Work
https://twitter.com/MenAtWork_MC/status/1575519245991120902?s=20&t=H3aOo9EY4P3tMLw5-mN1DA
Michael Conroy. That answers my question: it's legit.
This Halloween I am dressing up as Susie Green
How patronising is this woman? It's about the level of kindergarten and no one is objecting.
Listened for 30mins
Jelly babies, Gi Joe, Barbie … what infantile illustrations.
She mentioned Eddie Izzard with his jelly baby brain.
Just snake oil!
I hate sessions like this. So oppressive so even mild questioning is resisted, not just by the session leader but by the group as a whole. It gives the impression of a shared belief - but actually it’s about the awkwardness people feel when a ‘guest’ in this case the session leader is dealt with ‘impolitely’, in this case questioned at the most basic level. I’m usually that voice doing the questioning. Funny thing is you always get more than half coming up after thanking you for challenging and saying things like ‘I was going to ask that, but I’m just not as brave as you’. The scary thing is, for the 25-50% of the room, without someone outwardly questioning, they will walk out of the room thinking everyone agrees and thinks what I have just ‘learnt’ is right.
There's a Part 2 also.
Michael Conroy recorded this
@MenAtWork_MC on twitter
Mumsnet thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3454658-recording-of-mermaids-training?page=1
From there, transcripts:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aeFV0T6j4PXvm1xZBS_50oSJYV-_gO8YMoFjKjNA_9Y/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NDOMlo2aEpBl2ySfKdEWCb1H94tZciKiqUffjH1ku0Y/edit
I’m feeling a new sense of despair I haven’t felt before listening to this woman .
Who is she Graham ? She’s bloody dangerous .
She just proved our point. She said there are all different shades of blue, but they’re all still blue. That’s the point isn’t it. There are all different types of men and women, but they’re all still men and women.
The confidence with which that imbecile delivers this infantile shit, is just stunning. Can you imagine being one of those 1000 families suing the Tavistock, and discovering this recording? Realising that this is the level of stupidity which ultimately informed the decision to mutilate your child?
At least partial transcripts on Mumsnet
I used to facilitate workshops in workplaces on equality issues among other things. I have never known a workshop like this be conducted successfully as a lecture, without promoting and faciliating active learning and discussion among participants. This is just a monologue. What are the speaker's own credentials as an educator and as some sort of self appointed expert? I am just cringing and horrified at the scant regard to providing any robust references for statements presented as fact and the closing down of any questions. I wonder who the employer was, and whether they are in receipt of public funding. I had seen the Powerpoint presentations before, but to hear - and to realise that this is being delivered everywhere to thousands of people is just terrifying.
When all this gender ideology comes crashing down (which it will), many of them will pretend they were never involved. But this is the digital era. Children were sterilized and mutilated. And we saw what they did and didn't do.
I listened until that patronising woman told the guy recording, was it actually Michael, to take a step down academically in that awful aggressive voice!! Arrgh!!
Also she said that when the child was born it's digestive system starts to work.. surely rubbish..it must work in the womb, how did grow and thrive!!
I remember starting to transcribe it. Not sure how much I did but will find out.
Blue is on a spectrum! Bowk!
I wish someone would animate this recording and show the pictures of the Jelly Babies and the GenderBread person at the appropriate points behind the speaker. In the style of Wallace and Gromit.
A scouser sounding like a failed CBGB presenter selling snake oil .
My god what a load of insulting old crap she's talking.
I only listened to a part of this but it's horrifying! Sex is a spectrum, we have boys, girls and those who are on a dimmer switch! Funny not funny.
How can something so unscientific be presented as fact in diversity training?!
I cannot believe that person sounds like a fellow Scouser. I am genuinely ashamed. Does anyone know where it was recorded?
Thanks, Michael. You do such great work!
https://tradfem.wordpress.com/2019/06/24/pesky-fly-on-the-wall-account-of-a-mermaidstm-training-session-_-introducing-the-genderbread-person/
Oh yes the dimmer switch analogy where she posed the question to the 'pupils' as if she was talking to a bunch of 5yr olds on their first day...I almost expected a 'George...don't do that 'in a Joyce Grenfell voice🤣😂🙄. I lost the plot pretty early on, I wonder how many of the class fell asleep!! Boring rubbish but so dangerous when presented without discussion and exchange of opinions! A lot of smug, self satisfied *insert rude word folks*🤭
Hi Graham buy you grub next time you're in London plus a donation for all your hard work?
Sorry for commenting on the wrong article!! But fyi - the paedo who was being defended by sussex police on twitter has also already been moved to a different wing of the women's prison he was put into, for preying on a woman in there.
I would love to see a transcript cos I can hardly hear what they are saying.