Utterly tragic. But not unexpected of the lies peddled by vile fetishistic activists. The same lies around trans people being more likely to be murdered or commit suicide. Utter lies and no evidence is ever presented. These people are literally thick. Incapable of holding an argument (hence the no debate mantra). When will normal people see this?? My heart goes out to any parent who has found themselves in this situation. As a parent myself it's one of my big worries. All I can suggest to newer parents is put parental controls on their phone, put passwords on all devices in the house (don't forget the smart tv) or better still, make a deal with your child that if they want a phone you get to have access and look through from time to time. And please do not give your child any social media whatsoever until they are capable of handling it. Two clicks to porn is an understatement. Your child may have a tantrum and "hate" you but so what? You are not their friend, you are their parent. And ask yourself....will my child be damaged by not having social media and having a tantrum (which he will get over) or will they be better off and a better adult for it. I am not preaching whatsoever but just encouraging and emboldening parents to be the bad guy. It's so hard but I try to tell myself that once they come out the other side they will be so much happier having had less phone use.
This story has been told - heartbreakingly - in Julie Bindel’s series Julie in Genderland. I was asked to voice one of the anonymous parents. It’s heartbreaking.
As someone who has been cancelled by former “friends” because my husband (not even me!) wondered if their “neurodiverse”, 6’2”, son, aged 17, declaration that he now identifies as female, might perhaps be a phase, I do wonder if the next in-group of victims might be us?
If your teenage Son suddenly declares he’s a girl then just say: if you’re a woman then I’m a chocolate orange. The only difference is I’ve already been sectioned. Delusional! Now take that bloody dress off!
It sounds harsh but I think it's not a bad attitude at all because it doesn't show even the tiniest bit of indulgence. I think if you give an inch by the indulgence of children and the "be who you want to be" mantra they will take a mile. If you shut it down it could well help. But I'd still make sure you don't just push them underground and continuing secretly. James Esses has set up a group of psychologists who don't peddle trans nonsense so a little therapy could always help.
Yep. Stockholm Syndrome is inevitable once the Schools, therapists, online influencers, and peer networks have mind fucked the kids. On another more positive note: I just watched, “Beauty and the Beast” with the grandchildren and realised it was all about "Stockholm Syndrome" rather than true love! Anyway, it started badly but by the end I loved it...
The threat of estrangement is part of the movement's grip. It's always there. And because parents know that their child will need a smooth, solid route back when things go south—no "I told you so," no panic to match their own internal chaos, no visible resentment for the years lost to fear and despair—we stay silent, both with our children on, or over, the edge and with the public. Being anonymous takes a tremendous toll on our ability to inform others about this dystopian nightmare. We'd be so much more effective if we could expose the rot, point fingers, name names. Many of us would if the price would only be the loss of more friends, maybe our careers, but we won't risk permanently alienating our children and cutting off their lifeline back to reality. The cruelty of this movement cannot be fully appreciated without seeing the toll it takes on parents and siblings. Thank you for giving estranged parents a voice.
The whole " woke " movement is built on lies and its desciples are among the LEAST kind and compassionate people on earth. They don't have any coherent arguments to back up their ludicrous claims about gender ideology, like the fake " trans genocide" etc. They are homophobic,misogynistic and even racist in their views and there's just no reasoning with them.Hence the " no debate " mantra. The harms they have caused are truly heartbreaking and I pray for everyone impacted by this anti human agenda.Thanks ,Graham
My child tried that emotional blackmail in 2021 when the world was 100% affirming only, I was the Wickerman in real life, it was truly mind-blowing. In my darkest hour I had to decide suicide now or suicide after irreversible damage. All I had was logic and experience. I chose the former. It was a test no parent should have to ensure. I fought back against the cult for the despicable thing it had done to my child, I was secretly on a war footing. After intense searching, and in great thanks to you and OurDuty for the courage of my convictions, I came understand it was a Marxist cult. I formukated a plan to bribe my child to read animal farm, brave new world and 1984. When my child went back to school after the summer holidays, the penny dropped and my child said, "it really is a cult Dad". This opened the door to conversation and further reading into the history of Russia, China and Israel. My child is anti woke now and dealing with the effects of social transition at school. The light is at the end of the tunnel now. But it has been dark for so long.
I hesitate to write this, as-- unlike many of the people here-- I'm not a parent, much less one who has faced the "no contact" ordeal (either personally or through someone close to them). And I continue to be enraged and saddened on behalf of all those who've had their lives and careers devastated by this ideological plague.
The thing is... your child is ultimately going to be who they're going to be. And sometimes... who they're going to be is a jerk.
Obviously, as parents, you do the best you can to give your child the love which will help them develop into good people. You provide support, guidance, and a model of the sound values that you want to impart. But you can only do so much. As big a factor as nurture is, nature still plays its role.
So, sometimes, you find yourself with a child who is just a crappy person. And to whom crappy beliefs and behaviors naturally appeal.
And in those cases... maybe "no contact" is a good thing. Perhaps not for them, in that they won't have you to bail them out of the mess they've made... but for YOU.
I'm not saying that this is always the case, by any means; genderism infects all sorts of people, and we Glinnerites are well aware of how intensely even the very youngest children have been indoctrinated with it. And of course, until your child is an adult, you're obligated to go the extra mile for them, even if they show every sign of incipient jerkhood. Because they're still just a kid.
But they won't always be a kid. And if they're still being a jerk at that point, you don't have to put up with it. Or them.
And even while they ARE a kid, "extra mile" doesn't mean "unlimited distance". And it may be appropriate to let them know that. Sure, they may go "no contact" on you, but you may do the same to them. And even if they change their minds later? That doesn't necessarily mean that you will.
Let’s keep in mind that the worst TIMs and TRAs came from somewhere. And not always bad parenting. I'm sure that many of them have thoroughly-decent mothers and fathers who are as appalled by their behavior as we are. And who probably torment themselves trying to figure out where they went wrong.
Well, the parents didn't always go wrong. Sometimes it was the child who did, and was always bound to.
Not British, but I wonder if it might help to add that this ruling could be good opportunity for Labour MPs to begin distancing themselves from gender-woo. Once the fad has passed, and an angry public demands to know who let this happen, do they really want to be the last ones left defending it? Or be trampled in the mad rush to get as far away from it as possible? Better to start the walkback now, and have plenty of time to work on your story about how you were fooled and the remorse you now feel, instead of once you've been caught red-handed!
Utterly tragic. But not unexpected of the lies peddled by vile fetishistic activists. The same lies around trans people being more likely to be murdered or commit suicide. Utter lies and no evidence is ever presented. These people are literally thick. Incapable of holding an argument (hence the no debate mantra). When will normal people see this?? My heart goes out to any parent who has found themselves in this situation. As a parent myself it's one of my big worries. All I can suggest to newer parents is put parental controls on their phone, put passwords on all devices in the house (don't forget the smart tv) or better still, make a deal with your child that if they want a phone you get to have access and look through from time to time. And please do not give your child any social media whatsoever until they are capable of handling it. Two clicks to porn is an understatement. Your child may have a tantrum and "hate" you but so what? You are not their friend, you are their parent. And ask yourself....will my child be damaged by not having social media and having a tantrum (which he will get over) or will they be better off and a better adult for it. I am not preaching whatsoever but just encouraging and emboldening parents to be the bad guy. It's so hard but I try to tell myself that once they come out the other side they will be so much happier having had less phone use.
This story has been told - heartbreakingly - in Julie Bindel’s series Julie in Genderland. I was asked to voice one of the anonymous parents. It’s heartbreaking.
As someone who has been cancelled by former “friends” because my husband (not even me!) wondered if their “neurodiverse”, 6’2”, son, aged 17, declaration that he now identifies as female, might perhaps be a phase, I do wonder if the next in-group of victims might be us?
If your teenage Son suddenly declares he’s a girl then just say: if you’re a woman then I’m a chocolate orange. The only difference is I’ve already been sectioned. Delusional! Now take that bloody dress off!
It sounds harsh but I think it's not a bad attitude at all because it doesn't show even the tiniest bit of indulgence. I think if you give an inch by the indulgence of children and the "be who you want to be" mantra they will take a mile. If you shut it down it could well help. But I'd still make sure you don't just push them underground and continuing secretly. James Esses has set up a group of psychologists who don't peddle trans nonsense so a little therapy could always help.
Good tip, Tracy - but it was just a joke... piss-taking is excellent therapy and achieves excellent results in my humble opinion.
I did sense the humour but actually what you said is not a bad approach at all.
Yep. Stockholm Syndrome is inevitable once the Schools, therapists, online influencers, and peer networks have mind fucked the kids. On another more positive note: I just watched, “Beauty and the Beast” with the grandchildren and realised it was all about "Stockholm Syndrome" rather than true love! Anyway, it started badly but by the end I loved it...
The threat of estrangement is part of the movement's grip. It's always there. And because parents know that their child will need a smooth, solid route back when things go south—no "I told you so," no panic to match their own internal chaos, no visible resentment for the years lost to fear and despair—we stay silent, both with our children on, or over, the edge and with the public. Being anonymous takes a tremendous toll on our ability to inform others about this dystopian nightmare. We'd be so much more effective if we could expose the rot, point fingers, name names. Many of us would if the price would only be the loss of more friends, maybe our careers, but we won't risk permanently alienating our children and cutting off their lifeline back to reality. The cruelty of this movement cannot be fully appreciated without seeing the toll it takes on parents and siblings. Thank you for giving estranged parents a voice.
The whole " woke " movement is built on lies and its desciples are among the LEAST kind and compassionate people on earth. They don't have any coherent arguments to back up their ludicrous claims about gender ideology, like the fake " trans genocide" etc. They are homophobic,misogynistic and even racist in their views and there's just no reasoning with them.Hence the " no debate " mantra. The harms they have caused are truly heartbreaking and I pray for everyone impacted by this anti human agenda.Thanks ,Graham
My child tried that emotional blackmail in 2021 when the world was 100% affirming only, I was the Wickerman in real life, it was truly mind-blowing. In my darkest hour I had to decide suicide now or suicide after irreversible damage. All I had was logic and experience. I chose the former. It was a test no parent should have to ensure. I fought back against the cult for the despicable thing it had done to my child, I was secretly on a war footing. After intense searching, and in great thanks to you and OurDuty for the courage of my convictions, I came understand it was a Marxist cult. I formukated a plan to bribe my child to read animal farm, brave new world and 1984. When my child went back to school after the summer holidays, the penny dropped and my child said, "it really is a cult Dad". This opened the door to conversation and further reading into the history of Russia, China and Israel. My child is anti woke now and dealing with the effects of social transition at school. The light is at the end of the tunnel now. But it has been dark for so long.
It can happen over anything. The battle against families is real.
Disciples !!
I'm very grateful for you, Graham, and thanks for introducing us to Tina. I hope to help her get her doc out there.
I hesitate to write this, as-- unlike many of the people here-- I'm not a parent, much less one who has faced the "no contact" ordeal (either personally or through someone close to them). And I continue to be enraged and saddened on behalf of all those who've had their lives and careers devastated by this ideological plague.
The thing is... your child is ultimately going to be who they're going to be. And sometimes... who they're going to be is a jerk.
Obviously, as parents, you do the best you can to give your child the love which will help them develop into good people. You provide support, guidance, and a model of the sound values that you want to impart. But you can only do so much. As big a factor as nurture is, nature still plays its role.
So, sometimes, you find yourself with a child who is just a crappy person. And to whom crappy beliefs and behaviors naturally appeal.
And in those cases... maybe "no contact" is a good thing. Perhaps not for them, in that they won't have you to bail them out of the mess they've made... but for YOU.
I'm not saying that this is always the case, by any means; genderism infects all sorts of people, and we Glinnerites are well aware of how intensely even the very youngest children have been indoctrinated with it. And of course, until your child is an adult, you're obligated to go the extra mile for them, even if they show every sign of incipient jerkhood. Because they're still just a kid.
But they won't always be a kid. And if they're still being a jerk at that point, you don't have to put up with it. Or them.
And even while they ARE a kid, "extra mile" doesn't mean "unlimited distance". And it may be appropriate to let them know that. Sure, they may go "no contact" on you, but you may do the same to them. And even if they change their minds later? That doesn't necessarily mean that you will.
Let’s keep in mind that the worst TIMs and TRAs came from somewhere. And not always bad parenting. I'm sure that many of them have thoroughly-decent mothers and fathers who are as appalled by their behavior as we are. And who probably torment themselves trying to figure out where they went wrong.
Well, the parents didn't always go wrong. Sometimes it was the child who did, and was always bound to.
And it isn't always up to you to stop it.
Not British, but I wonder if it might help to add that this ruling could be good opportunity for Labour MPs to begin distancing themselves from gender-woo. Once the fad has passed, and an angry public demands to know who let this happen, do they really want to be the last ones left defending it? Or be trampled in the mad rush to get as far away from it as possible? Better to start the walkback now, and have plenty of time to work on your story about how you were fooled and the remorse you now feel, instead of once you've been caught red-handed!